Toughest folder for 200 or under

proguide said:
For under $200, many people will agree with the Manix. Thats a tough one to beat.
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I agree. The manix is my favorite folder that I carry daily. It handles every task I have ever used it on or in... The Chinook from Spyderco is also very tough as well! But if i were buying a new folder for under 200 bucks, I am going to NGK and getting the Manix. :)
 
Yeah, I don't know how I let those slip my mind. Big brain fart I guess. :eek:

My favorite is the Mini Manix. Nice!

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toughest in any aspect, no doubt about it, even though they're not my favorite knives for various reasons:

-Al Mar SERE 2000 (<$200)

-Greco Whisper (<$200)

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-Strider GB/AR (>$200).

-Chris Reeve Sebenza (>$200)
 
Glad to see the Greco Whisper finally got mentioned. 8670 carbon steel blade is going to be a lot tougher than any stainless, plus a very solid steel framelock.
 
whats the deal with NGK? the full sized manix there is 115.54 i see it elsewhere for 105, plus free shipping if you order over 125. in the past week i've wanted to order a sere 2000, a benchmade rukus full sized, now i'm wondering about those zero tolerence knives and the speed bump is looking good too. i like the one at NGK's in the green stripe handle. i think half the fun of buying a new knife is messing around online looking at them.
 
I bought a New In Box MicroTech LCC for $200 about a year ago and I have to say that this is the toughest folder that I have ever encountered. And that includes the Spydie Chinook I & II, and the Camillus CUDA MAXXs. If the Chinook is built like a tank, it is an M-62 and the LCC is an M1A1.
 
I bought a New In Box MicroTech LCC for $200 about a year ago and I have to say that this is the toughest folder that I have ever encountered. And that includes the Spydie Chinook I & II, and the Camillus CUDA MAXXs. If the Chinook is built like a tank, it is an M-62 and the LCC is an M1A1.
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Quantify "tough".
The LCC is a nice knife but the lock is about 25% of the strength of the Chinook 1 or 2 or the Manix. It is "tough" looking though, like most Microtech knives. But I don't think that counts...
 
Really, Anthony? I have obviously not tested it to destruction, but that was not the impression that I had of it. It is, admittedly, a liner lock and I happen to like liner locks, having never had a quality liner lock release on me other than when I intended it to do so. I have, however, had quality back locks release on me unintentionally. So, on what basis do you say that the lock on the LCC is but 25% as strong as that on the Chinooks?
 
Really.

The Manix/Chinook lock is the strongest production pocketknife lock that I am currently aware of. It has been tested to over 200 inch lbs pressure without failure. It makes most Axis style locks look weak by comparison. with a 4" blade, that means it can handle over 800 pounds without failure. I have heard over 1000 lbs is not uncommon.

Most quality linerlocks are only good for about 50 inch pounds. Framelocks are often 100% better than linerlocks, but also subject to manufacturing variables that can induce failure after hard use.

Another common failure point in folders are the handle-liner screws. The size, thread pitch, hardness of screws and number of screws are all variables that can affect durability. The strongest lock is only as string as what holds it in place.

From Spyderco:
Light Duty = over 25 inch/lbs of lock strength per inch of blade length.
Medium Duty = over 50 inch/lbs per inch of blade length.
Heavy Duty = over 100 inch/lbs per inch of blade length.
Very Heavy Duty (MBC) = over 200 inch/lbs of lock strength per inch of blade length.
 
jill jackson said:
i own a tanto buck strider with the heat treat by bos. it does not feel like a strong knife to me. i can grap it and feel blade play by rocking back on the tip. maybe it is stronger than i get a sense of by flexing the blade but it comes across to me as having to much blade flex on the liner lockup and side to side. some knives i can just mess with and get a sense that they are stout this isn't one of them.
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the buck 110 is a beefy knife. i like mine so much, i tweaked it for a lanyard and thumbstud. tough, sharp, and low maintenance.
 
On what basis has it been determined that a liner lock can be rated at no more than 50 inch pounds? Specifically, has anyone tested an LCC to destruction so that they may accurately determine the breaking point of the lock?
 
The Manix for sure. Most of the people in my dept. carry one if they like big knives. I have also seen many of the cities fire/rescue people carry them. I know I've used mine on duty since they were released.
 
jude_061 said:
the buck 110 is a beefy knife. i like mine so much, i tweaked it for a lanyard and thumbstud. tough, sharp, and low maintenance.
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i like most bucks for the dollar they are pretty good. but the strider i have i don't care for at all.:mad: oh well its no big deal.
 
has anyone ever test the amount of force it takes to break these knives that are said to be the strongest? i'm certain spyderco and cold steel do this but i'd like to see, the best as far as strongest all tested to failure by somebody other than a knife co.
 
I know that Spyderco has tested their own products but I do not believe that they have tested anybody else's. If they have, they have been damned quiet about it.
 
jill jackson said:
i like most bucks for the dollar they are pretty good. but the strider i have i don't care for at all.:mad: oh well its no big deal.
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i never got into the strider thing myself. i too have some knives that i wish i didn't though. you win some you lose some i suppose.
 
I think Spyderco tests other companies knives using a variety of methods. I know they test edge geometries and keep the results.
 
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