toughest folder lock and blade 4-5"

rockhead45 said:
i have had a 110 for a while and its ok but it just seams like the blade will break if used hard at all. this will be a backup blade and i use my 7" for the big stuff but this is a "what if it breaks, gets lost. or i forget it" type blade.
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The 110 has a tiny pivot pin, the knife seems like it would be a lot tougher than it is, with the solid brass bolsters. But I think it's not just the blade that would break if the knife was batoned or used for hard chopping. From what I've seen the entire knife would loosen up and fail.
 
jill jackson said:
The 110 has a tiny pivot pin, the knife seems like it would be a lot tougher than it is, with the solid brass bolsters. But I think it's not just the blade that would break if the knife was batoned or used for hard chopping. From what I've seen the entire knife would loosen up and fail.
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That's exactly what happens from what I have seen from my own use.

They are good knives for the money, but not quite as strong as some would think.
 
i dont own any knives from Crusader Forge but all the folders look like liner locks. IMO not good for abusive batoning. i think the tri-ad lock would hold up better
 
maby its just my luck with knives or maby its the fact that i have never had a good frame or liner lock but everyone i have had will unlock with any kind of pressure on the spine. My benchmade i dont think could ever come unlocked its a full sized grip by the way. What is everyons opion on liner or frame locks?
 
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crusader 4 + in. blade the titanium lock is 3/16 ths thick---some how i ca'nt see it failing.
dennis
 
Any Tri-Ad is good if you don't mind AUS-8 steel. If you want to spend a little more, get a Spyderco Paramilitary or a Paramilitary 2. Compression Lock is hard to beat, plus you get a lot of cutting power in a pocket-friendly design.
 
rockhead45 said:
maby its just my luck with knives or maby its the fact that i have never had a good frame or liner lock but everyone i have had will unlock with any kind of pressure on the spine. My benchmade i dont think could ever come unlocked its a full sized grip by the way. What is everyons opion on liner or frame locks?
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Yup, you've never had a good frame or liner lock knife. Try pushing on the spine of any Crusader Forge, Hinderer, Zero Tolerance, or Spyderco Military.
 
Those Crusaders warm the depths of my heart but the prices are out of my league. :(

How about a Hogue/Elishewitz EX-01 Tactical Folding Knife? I've been kind of wanting one. I can't figure out the lock system even though I've watched the videos and I don't know which would be tougher or considered harder use - the aluminum or the G-mascus?

Anyone?
 
RandomAyes said:
Cold Steel Pocket Bushman

4.5" blade, 4116 Krupp.

Very stout lockup. It takes some force to unlock it. The Pocket Bushy is one of the very few folders I'd feel safe clobbering with a baton.

The first run of these had a design flaw; The lockbar could pull all the way out. This problem was later fixed by redesign. I recently bought 2 direct from Cold Steel and they both have the new & improved lockbar.

Runs about $25. Ain't no thing but a chicken wing.
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Yeah, the Pocket Bushman is not pretty nor fancy, but it's very solid.
 
Sep said:
Yeah, the Pocket Bushman is not pretty nor fancy, but it's very solid.
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It's not bad for a folder, but Nutnfancy was able to destroy it with just simple batoning and chopping. The Cold Steel Recon can actually handle what the Pocket Bushman is advertised to.

Demko customs, of course, are even better.

I really like that Cold Steel puts out inexpensive knives in AUS-8, but I know a lot of people would pay a bit extra for a Tri-Ad design in Sandvik steel or whatnot.
 
gomipile said:
It's not bad for a folder, but Nutnfancy was able to destroy it with just simple batoning and chopping. The Cold Steel Recon can actually handle what the Pocket Bushman is advertised to.

Demko customs, of course, are even better.

I really like that Cold Steel puts out inexpensive knives in AUS-8, but I know a lot of people would pay a bit extra for a Tri-Ad design in Sandvik steel or whatnot.
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Aw shucks. The updated lockbar makes it one of the strongest lock mechanisms out there, but now the 4116 blade fails. I think a Japanese AUS-8 steel as used on their SRK would fare better.
 
cziv said:
Those Crusaders warm the depths of my heart but the prices are out of my league. :(

How about a Hogue/Elishewitz EX-01 Tactical Folding Knife? I've been kind of wanting one. I can't figure out the lock system even though I've watched the videos and I don't know which would be tougher or considered harder use - the aluminum or the G-mascus?

Anyone?
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I have a 4" Hogue EX-01 tanto with black aluminum handles - very sturdy and well built knife.

The knife has what I would call a modified button lock where the fat part of the barrel becomes the lock when open. There is a safety that you can engage to keep the button lock from disengaging when open and in use.

I wasn't crazy about the gmascus handles - I preferred the alum. Others rave about them though and I don't think you can go wrong with either. I can see the alum getting slick if your hands get wet.

The knife is well built, very good fit and finish, and was probably one of the sharpest out of the box - as they put somewhat of a mirror finish on the edge.

I cannot speak to how well it will hold up under extreme use or batoning - I don't use my folders that hard.
 
RandomAyes said:
Oh boy. Somehow I missed Nutnfancy's 3rd video on the Pocket Bushman until just now. What a shame. It's the only folder lock mechanism that can really take a beating. Since I own 2 of these, and since they probably were heat treated as part of the same production lot, I should take one out and give it a merciless batoning. If it shatters, I can assume the other knife would fail too.

Sooner or later somebody must rise to the challenge of making a batonable folder.
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It's notable that the blade failed before the lock. This compression-type lock is very strong. The knife can only fold unintentionally when the pivot shears off or the metal handle spine tears, both are extremely unlikely to happen.

Another good candidate is Cold Steel's legal balisongs. They're spring loaded so they're not classified as gravity knife. A balisong is very strong because you have to break one of the pivots to make it fail. Technically the mechanism is not a lock, so there's no lock to fail.
 
Spartan!

Demko!
 
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