Toughest production folder

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What do you consider the toughest production folder? I'd say the Benchmade 710, Cuda Maxx, or Lonewolf Harsley tactical folder.
 
From what I have seen and read, I can't imagine how any production folder can be tougher than the Extrema Ratios. The locking design is a massive 1/4" thick lockback with a crossbolt backup, and the blades are a 1/4" think.

How could any other production folder be tougher than that?
 
I think the new BM 520 is extremely tough...Certainly a lot stronger then those lame frame locks that keep getting mentioned. :rolleyes:
I think those things are like standard answer or somthing. I might also add that the BM has more of a production folder price.
 
easy... have a look at the chinook...
4mm spine, 3.75" blade. it holds at 250lbs+/inch of blade. machine maxes at 850lbs total and the sucker holds.
 
Originally posted by VampyreWolf
easy... have a look at the chinook...
4mm spine, 3.75" blade. it holds at 250lbs+/inch of blade. machine maxes at 850lbs total and the sucker holds.


Okay, so the Extrema Ratio's blade/locking bar width is substantially thicker and has the same locking mechanism???? How is the Chinook stronger?
 
Hmm..

Have to say a CRKT Prowler, just because it is super-burly and can be had for under $40. And it has LAWKS, which is very sweet. It's based on a Marzetelli design, and I think is one of the best hard-use knives for the money...
IMO...;)
I am also thinking of picking up the Buck/Strider 880SP...pretty thick beast, also!!
 
What angles are lock cut at? How's heat treat on steals of locking bar and blade? etc.

THere's a lot more to strenght than just having a thick blade and thick locking bar
 
Originally posted by Knife11
...Certainly a lot stronger then those lame frame locks that keep getting mentioned. :rolleyes:
I think those things are like standard answer or somthing.

There may be a reason why those are the standard answer... :)

Simple designs tend to be more reliable and stronger, all else being equal. The Maxx and Sebenza (and Buck/Mayo, BM 750, CRKT S2, Greco, etc.) all use one of the simplest possible designs in combination with some very tough materials. I don't think it's a coincidence that they also share a reputation for being extremely robust in actual use.

This doesn't mean that all other designs are necessarily weaker. It just means that they have more to prove on an individual basis.

As much respect as I have for Benchmade's knives (I'm a big fan of the 710 and 940 in particular) I would not expect them to hold up under abuse as well as a Sebenza or Maxx.

--Bob Q
 
I have two of the Greco folders. I find it hard to imagine what I might use a knife for that could damage these.

They are not slick. They don't come close to my CRKs or Darrell Ralphs for precision and elegance. They aren't as pretty as my Microtechs or MODs. You could develop powerful thumb muscles opening and closing them. But they are the ultimate in tough. Nice sharp blades, too, and they stay that way.

Besides CRK, Ralph, Microtech, and MOD, I think Strider and their Buck collaborations are also awesome in their ability to take hard use and retain sharpness and not fold up on me. I haven't seen an Extrema Ratio outside of pictures, but I would imagine they are in this ultimate class, also. I have been thinking of finding the money for an MPC. :)

Spyderco and Benchmade make some beautiful knives, but they just aren't as tough as the ones I listed. CRKT won't come close. These aren't bad knives, and for many purposes they are excellent. They are less expensive, light weight, compact, sharp, and tough enough for everyday situations. Why buy a sledgehammer when you need to tap a nail into the wall?
 
My vote is for the Spyderco Gunting. That is one beefy knife.

I don't understand why the discussion seems to revolve around the LOCK. How much of the toughness of a knife has to do with how strongly it resists a closing force??? I mean, in the course of using a knife, I don't think I EVER come NEAR to putting force against the lock mechanism. It's not like I'm trying to cut with the back of the blade!

I think the pith of the matter is design, construction, thickness, and materials. For those reasons, I favor the Gunting. That handle is a hand-filler, and that blade is stout and inspires serious confidence in its strength and toughness.

---Jeffrey
 
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