t1mpani
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RL, I do believe we have got off on the wrong foot...and then followed that up with some high-speed clogging and out-of-rythmn jazz tap. My name is Warren, and I am not wanting a fight with you. In fact, believe it or not, my purpose in posting was to stop this from turning from a "what knife should I buy" thread into a fight. Obviously, I have failed. Alas, with my second post I'm already hurling vengeful sarcasm with reckless abandon!! I think we can see why Pride was included among the deadly sins! 
My initial post should not have included the eye-roll. Also, it seemed sarcastically directed at you, where it was actually sarcastically directed at the tendency we ALL have of jumping on each other's backs.
Let me please offer this as an example of why I don't think fishbulb needed jumping on:
We all know how easy it is to edit a quote to work to one's advantage, so here's the link:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=265292&perpage=20&pagenumber=3
I remember this thread because it was very long--and it was revisited recently--and I remember your post because I (a)thought the part "I could never even make such a comparison" was funny, and (b)agreed with pretty much everything you said.
You made some claims in there, though--sans specific evidence--that might rub a Cold Steel guy the wrong way. How would you have reacted if somebody had come back and said, "If you haven't done any tests, how do you KNOW Cold Steel couldn't stand up to the worst custom makers? Who made you such an expert?" Actually, some people did say that as I recall, though I don't remember if you responded...and my slow-as-dirt modem discourages me from loading up the rest of the pages to find out.
Now, if this were fishbulb's thread, and he had entitled it, "John Greco's folders are the very best there is, bar none" I would have been interested in hearing some data to back that up aswell, and I'm a big fan of Greco. I like tests, I just don't think they're required with every enthusiastic recommendation, along with dates/times and corroborative witnesses.
And no, angel I'm certainly not, and I've made some posts here that I'm downright ashamed of. I'll even give you one:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=243627
Within this thread, you'll hear me whining like a little b!tch about...well, nothing!!! And disparaging a dealer that I'd dealt with before (and many times since). I've read it and re-read it, and I can't figure out what the hell I was smoking! I don't think unreasonable could possibly fully define my I'm Going To Argue With The World attitude there. So no, no angelic illusions here!
The worst part is, we're both suffering from unproductivity because we keep running back to this page to parry the other's newest thrust. So, let's stop trying to out-quip each other and meet up, grab some beers, grab some Cold Steels and bad custom knives and settle that question once and for all!!!
*Edited because having one's hand on the wrong keys when typing makes for some difficult reading. Also because I seemed to have copy-pasted part of a letter I'd written to my brother, and it really didn't make much sense in this context.
My initial post should not have included the eye-roll. Also, it seemed sarcastically directed at you, where it was actually sarcastically directed at the tendency we ALL have of jumping on each other's backs.
Let me please offer this as an example of why I don't think fishbulb needed jumping on:
Originally posted by RL
Re: Opinions on Cold Steel
"What is your opinion of the CS products in general? "
Well, they have always left me..well..cold (excuse the pun)...nevertheless, I made the leap and I bought a Desperado...I am NOT satisfied with the purchase. The first thing that struck me was the massive "made in Taiwan" stamped on the side Next, I have to say that it has the worst sheath that I have ever seen. I will say that it is sharp but it feels as though it will become dull the first time that I would use it.
"What is your opinion on how the CS products compare with others in their price range? "
I think Spyderco is a far better product. (or Falkniven for fixed blades)
"What is your opinion on how the CS products compare against other factory knives? "
Not very well...I think Spyderco and Microtech make far better products and CRKT offers better value.
"What is your opinion on how the CS products compare against custom knives?"
I could never even make such a comparison
"What is your opinion on how the very best of the CS products (name them please...Thanks!) stand up against the very best of the custom maker's knives? "
I've never done any tests but I can't imagine how CS would stand up to the worst custom makers, let alone the best!
RL
We all know how easy it is to edit a quote to work to one's advantage, so here's the link:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=265292&perpage=20&pagenumber=3
I remember this thread because it was very long--and it was revisited recently--and I remember your post because I (a)thought the part "I could never even make such a comparison" was funny, and (b)agreed with pretty much everything you said.
You made some claims in there, though--sans specific evidence--that might rub a Cold Steel guy the wrong way. How would you have reacted if somebody had come back and said, "If you haven't done any tests, how do you KNOW Cold Steel couldn't stand up to the worst custom makers? Who made you such an expert?" Actually, some people did say that as I recall, though I don't remember if you responded...and my slow-as-dirt modem discourages me from loading up the rest of the pages to find out.
Now, if this were fishbulb's thread, and he had entitled it, "John Greco's folders are the very best there is, bar none" I would have been interested in hearing some data to back that up aswell, and I'm a big fan of Greco. I like tests, I just don't think they're required with every enthusiastic recommendation, along with dates/times and corroborative witnesses.
And no, angel I'm certainly not, and I've made some posts here that I'm downright ashamed of. I'll even give you one:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=243627
Within this thread, you'll hear me whining like a little b!tch about...well, nothing!!! And disparaging a dealer that I'd dealt with before (and many times since). I've read it and re-read it, and I can't figure out what the hell I was smoking! I don't think unreasonable could possibly fully define my I'm Going To Argue With The World attitude there. So no, no angelic illusions here!
The worst part is, we're both suffering from unproductivity because we keep running back to this page to parry the other's newest thrust. So, let's stop trying to out-quip each other and meet up, grab some beers, grab some Cold Steels and bad custom knives and settle that question once and for all!!!
*Edited because having one's hand on the wrong keys when typing makes for some difficult reading. Also because I seemed to have copy-pasted part of a letter I'd written to my brother, and it really didn't make much sense in this context.
