Toughness of S35VN and ELMAX

DeadboxHero said:
Sounds good.

I'll start one and link this thread when I'm done grinding.

I've been pondering about this over my morning coffee. I think we'll test the ZT 566 in Elmax and S35VN, Out of Box, The Elmax was discontinued but there are still some floating around.
Between that and this testing we would all have a pretty good idea we could all reference.
But maybe that's for next year. I dont wanna go broke, I've got other things that have priority.
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Hey DBH,

The utmost respect to you. Really taking steps in helping us (more than just me apparently) really determine how the steels compare. There are a lot of anecdotal information passing around, but is actually the best attempt of evening up all the variables and just comparing the steels.

Been awhile since logging on. What a surprise to see others contributing to this thread in friendly and helpful ways. Appreciate all of this.

Blue
 
bluelighthawaii said:
Hey DBH,

The utmost respect to you. Really taking steps in helping us (more than just me apparently) really determine how the steels compare. There are a lot of anecdotal information passing around, but is actually the best attempt of evening up all the variables and just comparing the steels.

Been awhile since logging on. What a surprise to see others contributing to this thread in friendly and helpful ways. Appreciate all of this.

Blue
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I started a new thread, video is up with an explanation and the first test

More tests to come, and a full write up when time allows.

Should be done by June if time allows. Seems like a long time but it's free information and my time is getting scarce.

I have other priorities.


https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/the-toughest-pm-stainless.1561997/


Thanks

-shawn
 
Well, finally tested only took over a year and $300.00

Quite surprised

Update in thread linked above
 
The poster asked about 2 steels. We all know 3V is tough as he'll, but it's not relevant here. Not stainless either. The one comment mentioning S30V was also wrong. It's not tougher than S35 at the same HRC. Through personal use, Elmax is tougher than S35 when both are hardened for optimal toughness. S35 on something like an ESSE-3 is gonna betough enough for most use cases, but the guys at ESSE did a good job of documenting a distruction test where they pushed the blade to its limits and broke it, so even when it's ran a bit softer, it still doesn't have the level of toughness one would want for an all around wilderness survival knife that might do heavy splitting with a baton. Elmax however can hold up to that type of abuse. AG Russell did extensive impact testing on a large fixed blade with a steel that is nearly identical to Elmax, and you can find videos of them blasting it through cinder blocks and all kinds of craziness, and it took it all. From what I can tell, Elmax is one of the toughest PM stainless steels out there. Today, there may be one or two that beat it...I can't say for sure, but I hear Magnacut is out of this world.
 
Dr. Synth said:
The poster asked about 2 steels. We all know 3V is tough as he'll, but it's not relevant here. Not stainless either. The one comment mentioning S30V was also wrong. It's not tougher than S35 at the same HRC. Through personal use, Elmax is tougher than S35 when both are hardened for optimal toughness. S35 on something like an ESSE-3 is gonna betough enough for most use cases, but the guys at ESSE did a good job of documenting a distruction test where they pushed the blade to its limits and broke it, so even when it's ran a bit softer, it still doesn't have the level of toughness one would want for an all around wilderness survival knife that might do heavy splitting with a baton. Elmax however can hold up to that type of abuse. AG Russell did extensive impact testing on a large fixed blade with a steel that is nearly identical to Elmax, and you can find videos of them blasting it through cinder blocks and all kinds of craziness, and it took it all. From what I can tell, Elmax is one of the toughest PM stainless steels out there. Today, there may be one or two that beat it...I can't say for sure, but I hear Magnacut is out of this world.
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www.knifesteelnerds.com
 
Larrin Thomas’ numbers put Elmax on par with S45VN… slightly less tough than S35VN but with a little better edge retention and rust resistance.
 
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