Traditional French Fry day

Your assessment of fit and finish seems to be spot on with about 50% of the French knives I have handled. I will say, every single one of them (besides the Fontenille Pataud lockbacks with blade stops) has the kick on the spring itself, rather than the blade, and that is the reason for blade rap. It is the same with all of my Spanish and Italian traditionals as well. It's just a design feature you have to deal with. I think Will Power Will Power and Jolipapa Jolipapa have great ideas with the cork or matchstick. I use leather, but think I will try cork next time.

Since becoming interested in European traditionals, I have actually changed my habits and close every knife gently now, even if I'm sure there is no blade rap. To each their own.

BTW, that Violin is a beauty, but I like your wine barrel one better!

Thanks Steve !!! and thanks Will Power Will Power and Jolipapa Jolipapa for comments and suggestions. Much appreciated :)

I carefully close ALL knives regardless of origin, pattern and manufacture. Even those with no known history of blade rap.
Thing is though, sometimes there's a slip or circumstances (not meals of course) may require one handed closing.

Since mentioned, couple in Oak Wine Barrel

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Quite honestly in my opinion, they should stick to friction folders which they do best.

This slip joint is only acceptable if you are willing to baby it while closing or you will likely see blade rap.
At least that has been my experience with 4 full size Violin's in either Boxwood or Oak Barrel.
I'm reminded that most Laguioles for example are notorious for blade rap and must be carefully closed.
It's even said to be a French tradition to do so. This pattern from Nontron is similar in that regard.
Just as there are some French makers of the Laguiole that have solved the blade rap issue ...
Maybe there are French makers of a similar "Violin" pattern who also have. One can hope.
I wouldn't be shocked if there are some from Nontron that have no blade rap but perhaps those would have to be cherry picked. Dunno
Sometimes you may find a Violin that in order to avoid excessive blade rap, the blade tip is almost proud of the handle.
Just sitting high enough to easily catch and possible nick a finger tip. There just isn't much room to play with in the construction.

As for fit and finish, this is a user and worker and not to be confused with a prized collection piece of exceptional fit and finish.
Besides the possible blade rap, expect to see slightly sunken backsprings when closed but flush when open.
Blade centering may be slightly off which isn't surprising at the price point. Like all production knives there will be something off, here and there, now and then.
Especially production knives that are semi-handmade.
The blade centering is USUALLY easily corrected as I have had to do so with many Case knives for example.
The thing is though, the "Nontron" and Logo are deep stamps in the blade steel and I did break one blade on a Violin (right through the Logo) while trying to center it.
The deep stamps weaken the blade strength in those areas.

The proprietary T12 steel from Forge de Laguiole (owner of Nontron) easily takes a fine edge and the cover materials are of good quality.
While exact specifications of T12 are unknown, it is said to be similar to 12C27 and seems so to me.

I would like to hear other's experience with the Nontron Violin as I only have experience with four of them.
Other than that, I close the knife carefully and enjoy carrying and using a knife I would love to love.

At the end of the day, the ONLY thing that troubles me about this knife, given the expectations at this price point, is the blade rap.
1 in a 50 times of closing (i'm scientific like that ;) ) the blade will slip from my finger tips and slam shut, necessitating a resharpening experience.
It has even crossed my mind to order ANOTHER Violin in hope of a better experience. I like the knife that much. I'm a gluten for punishment I guess LOL.
In the meantime, I may stick with the German OTTER-Messer 161's of a similar but larger pattern which haven't disappointed me in any way ... considering the price point.

... but an OTTER-Messer is NOT a Nontron ... nor vice versa.
Thank you for the solid write up! 👍
It's been on my list of things I want to eventually buy but haven't quite pulled the trigger yet. I still very well might try one eventually.

Your assessment of fit and finish seems to be spot on with about 50% of the French knives I have handled. I will say, every single one of them (besides the Fontenille Pataud lockbacks with blade stops) has the kick on the spring itself, rather than the blade, and that is the reason for blade rap. It is the same with all of my Spanish and Italian traditionals as well. It's just a design feature you have to deal with.
That's an interesting thing that I hadn't noticed that the design relies on the spring to act as the kick as well.
 
Next Friday this time I should be on the road to the "Massif Central". Is there any of our French members going to "La Monnerie - le Montel"?
EDIT: The guys from the "Vieilles lames" will kill me!! I will not be on my way to the "Massif Central" but to the "Montagne Thiernoise"!!! Pardonnez moi!

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Quelle beauté!!!!!!!
Merci!

I'll refrain from any further speaking or writing in French - possibly the hardest European language to me! :oops:
For once something very simple and humble. A 9cm "Laguiole Tradition", 440 steel and horn scales.

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Simplistic and humble knives are often my favorites, although I do appreciate the fine ones that you post often! A beautiful knife here!!
Next Friday this time I should be on the road to the "Massif Central". Is there any of our French members going to "La Monnerie - le Montel"?
EDIT: The guys from the "Vieilles Lâmes" will kill me!! I will not be on my way to the "Massif Central" but to the "Montagne Thiernoise"!!! Pardonnez moi!

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That should be a fun event; I am jealous!

I love the look of the handles on the knife here. I have seen many recently that are a combination of colored resin and wood. Seems to be mainly on French knives, but maybe I'm not looking in enough places.
 
This arrived a few hours ago. I've been looking for an Ironwood handle for quite some time, and the offer of three free letters was enough to get me to bite. St. Bernard by Fontenille Pataud. Exquisite fit and finish as usual, and the pictures don't capture the sparkle of that ironwood.

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draggat draggat Steve, that horn has the depth of a fine tiger's eye stone. I wish I could bring myself to own one. I'm hesitant because of the poor wear factors I've read about.
Thanks Alan, sometimes you get lucky with horn. As for wear, the only negative to me is that it scratches and dulls fairly easily. You can just re-polish if that happens. Also, it's not good to get them soaking wet, but a little splash of water won't hurt and don't leave them in the sun. As for curling, I would say it's pretty rare on a high quality French or Italian knife. They use only the tip of the horn, where it is the most dense, for this purpose, and most of these makers have been using it for a really long time. Savignac has been in business for well over 100 years if my memory serves me correctly.
 
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