Trail Cutlet

Natlek said:
Sorry if you were offended. I thought you filmed that video to demonstrate the capabilities of that blade. . . .. So , with all due respect I apologize for watching the video and noticing that blade fails to cut thin branches .
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I'm not offended at all! I accept your apology for watching my video. Don't let it happen again 🤣
 
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I've been thinking about this thread for the past week or so, and feeling like some things have gone unsaid which maybe should be said.

With regard to the videos I took, they weren't meant to show the overall capabilities of this knife. If that were the case, I would have filmed the knife being used for all kinds of things. Instead, I was recording my first test of this blade., and that happened to be on a section of trail which was overgrown with one specific plant.

In the same way that abrasive impregnated paper is used to test wear resistance, or pressure exerted through a diamond point is used to test hardness, I used the most difficult media to cut, (salal) to test the handling of this knife.

Yes, the overall weight is a factor, but more important to me in my testing is handling. My goal for this knife was to develop something with reach that hits with a solid impact, but feels balanced and neutral even for lighter duty cutting, like what I filmed. And also to test some principles behind the handle design, where a looser grip for cutting like this is possible while still being able to index the edge and aim it intuitively with every hit.

Salal is a springy, woody shrub which is also difficult to cut due to its irregular stem orientations and its tough, large leaves. Cutting it with a knife efficiently requires accuracy. It's not deciduous, it grows year round and is very gregarious. Also, it doesn't always look like it's being cut, when it is. That's because of the intertwining nature of its growth, where it will stay in place even after the stem is severed.

Now, it is possible that a knife could be designed specifically for this plant. I would suggest that this knife would look exactly like a lopping shear.

I did say, in the op, that I'd love to hear your thoughts. N Natlek shared his thoughts, and in retrospect, I should have accepted them on their face, without sarcasm. That was my mistake. I would have been less inclined to be a dick about it if the statements were less absolutist and more of a question, but I did ask for feedback and should've been more gracious about it.

At any rate, although I wasn't offended by what was written, the tone rubbed me the wrong way- I felt like what I was trying to achieve here was obvious, but instead was misunderstood. That's on me. If I didn't want that kind of feedback, I shouldn't have asked for it.

In the future, with threads like this, I'm going to try and provide more background information from the outset.
 
Lorien said:
I've been thinking about this thread for the past week or so, and feeling like some things have gone unsaid which maybe should be said.

With regard to the videos I took, they weren't meant to show the overall capabilities of this knife. If that were the case, I would have filmed the knife being used for all kinds of things. Instead, I was recording my first test of this blade., and that happened to be on a section of trail which was overgrown with one specific plant.

In the same way that abrasive impregnated paper is used to test wear resistance, or pressure exerted through a diamond point is used to test hardness, I used the most difficult media to cut, (salal) to test the handling of this knife.

Yes, the overall weight is a factor, but more important to me in my testing is handling. My goal for this knife was to develop something with reach that hits with a solid impact, but feels balanced and neutral even for lighter duty cutting, like what I filmed. And also to test some principles behind the handle design, where a looser grip for cutting like this is possible while still being able to index the edge and aim it intuitively with every hit.

Salal is a springy, woody shrub which is also difficult to cut due to its irregular stem orientations and its tough, large leaves. Cutting it with a knife efficiently requires accuracy. It's not deciduous, it grows year round and is very gregarious. Also, it doesn't always look like it's being cut, when it is. That's because of the intertwining nature of its growth, where it will stay in place even after the stem is severed.

Now, it is possible that a knife could be designed specifically for this plant. I would suggest that this knife would look exactly like a lopping shear.

I did say, in the op, that I'd love to hear your thoughts. N Natlek shared his thoughts, and in retrospect, I should have accepted them on their face, without sarcasm. That was my mistake. I would have been less inclined to be a dick about it if the statements were less absolutist and more of a question, but I did ask for feedback and should've been more gracious about it.

At any rate, although I wasn't offended by what was written, the tone rubbed me the wrong way- I felt like what I was trying to achieve here was obvious, but instead was misunderstood. That's on me. If I didn't want that kind of feedback, I shouldn't have asked for it.

In the future, with threads like this, I'm going to try and provide more background information from the outset.
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No worries!!! Shit happens!!!! Nice piece of introspection though!!! Brand new week!!!!!
Safe travels to Atlanta!!
 
jfk1110 said:
No worries!!! Shit happens!!!! Nice piece of introspection though!!! Brand new week!!!!!
Safe travels to Atlanta!!
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"The unexamined life is not worth living"
-Socrates

got my bag packed today, starting to get a little excited
 
Lorien said:
I've been thinking about this thread for the past week or so, and feeling like some things have gone unsaid which maybe should be said.

With regard to the videos I took, they weren't meant to show the overall capabilities of this knife. If that were the case, I would have filmed the knife being used for all kinds of things. Instead, I was recording my first test of this blade., and that happened to be on a section of trail which was overgrown with one specific plant.

In the same way that abrasive impregnated paper is used to test wear resistance, or pressure exerted through a diamond point is used to test hardness, I used the most difficult media to cut, (salal) to test the handling of this knife.

Yes, the overall weight is a factor, but more important to me in my testing is handling. My goal for this knife was to develop something with reach that hits with a solid impact, but feels balanced and neutral even for lighter duty cutting, like what I filmed. And also to test some principles behind the handle design, where a looser grip for cutting like this is possible while still being able to index the edge and aim it intuitively with every hit.

Salal is a springy, woody shrub which is also difficult to cut due to its irregular stem orientations and its tough, large leaves. Cutting it with a knife efficiently requires accuracy. It's not deciduous, it grows year round and is very gregarious. Also, it doesn't always look like it's being cut, when it is. That's because of the intertwining nature of its growth, where it will stay in place even after the stem is severed.

Now, it is possible that a knife could be designed specifically for this plant. I would suggest that this knife would look exactly like a lopping shear.

I did say, in the op, that I'd love to hear your thoughts. N Natlek shared his thoughts, and in retrospect, I should have accepted them on their face, without sarcasm. That was my mistake. I would have been less inclined to be a dick about it if the statements were less absolutist and more of a question, but I did ask for feedback and should've been more gracious about it.

At any rate, although I wasn't offended by what was written, the tone rubbed me the wrong way- I felt like what I was trying to achieve here was obvious, but instead was misunderstood. That's on me. If I didn't want that kind of feedback, I shouldn't have asked for it.

In the future, with threads like this, I'm going to try and provide more background information from the outset.
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Excellent response. Way to take a potentially sour experience and turn it into an opportunity to grow.

Love the blade. Very interested to see more. I'd love to purchase one at some point!
 
carnifex knifeworks said:
Excellent response. Way to take a potentially sour experience and turn it into an opportunity to grow.

Love the blade. Very interested to see more. I'd love to purchase one at some point!
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thanks very much. Lemons are sour, lemonade is sweet!
I'll definitely make at least one more from this pattern, and I'm thinking in the long term that it may become a 'standard model' of sorts. Still have a way to go before I can work efficiently enough to get to that point
fishface5 said:
Man I'd love to compare that to my modded 1311!
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is the 1311 the khukuri?
 
No no it's the upper one, similar to the scrap yard 1311 posted by another forumite but I added a micarta handle. It's about the same length, width and thickness as the trail cutlet, but in modified 52100.
 
I never did get around to weighing this knife, so I can't tell you its actual weight. In retrospect, that would have been useful information here, lol
 
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