Trail jogging rc3 or rc4?

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Can you give me your advice?

I run every weekend by myself in the forests for about 2-3 hours. Nobody is around usually. Once I encountered a mountain lion, have run across many rattlers, bobcats, ticks etc. I'm not saying that I want to fight a mountain lion with a small knife. I'm just saying sometimes I feel a little unprotected.

I'm thinking of a boda belt to hold water, whistle, Gu and mount a fixed blade.

Weight but also reach are important too me.

Thanks
 
You probably know better than us what kind of weight you want to carry. I don't think there's much of a difference in the two as far as being a weapon is concerned so my opinion would be to take the lighter one.
 
I would also suggest the 4. I carry mine on my camelbak havoc during trail rides and hikes. The extra weight is not noticeable while I'm ripping downhill trying to keep the rubber on the dirt. Plus if you need to defend yourself or worst case survive outside overnight, the RC-4 is the better choice.

Just my thoughts. Hope it helps.
 
For hiking or even riding a bike I'd say the RC-4 is fine. If I was running I'd want the RC-3. For personal protection I'd run with a Kel-tec P3at or P32. Neither weighs that much more than the RC-4.
 
Since mountain lions and rattlers are on your routes, I would suggest a scandium/titanium snubnose revolver in either 38SPL +P or .357 mag. Light weight and plenty of fire power. Personally, I would not want a mountain lion close enough to me where I could reach it with a knife.
 
I have two 1911's in .45 acp. I wish I could bring one but there are two problems...1) weight and 2) I live in Kalifornia!

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I run a lot too and in warm weather usually only carry a folder clipped in waistband or on hydration belt (UD version of Fuelbelt type belt. What you carry depends on how you want to carry it. In the winter I run (snowshoe) or xc ski with a small pack that carries minimum winter survival gear, including a fixed blade similar in size to an RC4.

For a 2-3 hr run how do you carry water and is it comfortable to add a knife to that ? If you only hand carry water or have only a small light hydration belt, a small fixed blade might be better than a larger one - as you know it is not just the weight, but also the stability / movement of the object (heavy objects flopping around cause physical and mental irritation after a while).
 
MArathonman said:
Can you give me your advice?

I run every weekend by myself in the forests for about 2-3 hours. Nobody is around usually. Once I encountered a mountain lion, have run across many rattlers, bobcats, ticks etc. I'm not saying that I want to fight a mountain lion with a small knife. I'm just saying sometimes I feel a little unprotected.

I'm thinking of a boda belt to hold water, whistle, Gu and mount a fixed blade.

Weight but also reach are important too me.

Thanks
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The weight difference between the RC-3 & RC-4 is 2.2 ounces (just the knife).

A man with a knife is no match for a mountain lion or any other large dangerous beast but a knife can be of great benefit in your situation for other purposes & it would be a great idea for you to carry one. I would also suggest carrying some proven bear repellent for any critter that may threaten you.

Of course, a large caliber hand gun would be the most appropriate for protection.
 
I stumbled across a mountain lion one day while riding my mountain bike, I was alone, nobody around to hear me if it went bad. Needless to say my Glock 27 become a regular addition to my bike pack :eek: I suppose IF the lion jumped on you then it would be nice to have a blade to defend yourself and if that was the case I would go RC4 because in that situation size does matter however like Dale said it would only take once and I would be packing a sidearm :D
 
silverbullets is 100% correct. You don't need a knife, you need a gun. Get your hands on one of those Taurus Judges and load it up alternating snakeshot and slugs.
 
The cold steel roach belly weighs only 2.6 oz, 3.5 oz including sheath. This would work well on my hydration belt. Then have a rc-4 for day hiiking. This might be the way to go. Although the Judge idea really appeals to me.
 
I have been trail running for several years and don't carry more than some water and calories when I go out. Trail running is kind of a spiritual deal for me. I have seen some rattlers and a coyote while running in Idaho. I've seen tons of bear while running in Alaska. But that's all part of the experience. Makes me run a little faster. :D I don't, and won't, carry any knife or gun with me when I'm running though. To do that would be to take away what trail running is all about.

OTOH, I do carry plenty of steel, both knives and guns, when I hike. But that is something completely different in my mind.
 
Rc4 and a can of CS gas (Orthochlorobenzal Malononitrile), "Punch P90" brand manufactured in europe is particulaly powerfull, about twice as strong as police issue stuff, and will knock most things on their asses including a big kitty,

(I have had this tested on me,Not for a prank or youtube sillyness, and it is horrific!!, compared with normal police issue )
 
Idaho Jarhead said:
I have been trail running for several years and don't carry more than some water and calories when I go out. Trail running is kind of a spiritual deal for me. I have seen some rattlers and a coyote while running in Idaho. I've seen tons of bear while running in Alaska. But that's all part of the experience. Makes me run a little faster. :D I don't, and won't, carry any knife or gun with me when I'm running though. To do that would be to take away what trail running is all about.

OTOH, I do carry plenty of steel, both knives and guns, when I hike. But that is something completely different in my mind.
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Great message. I feel the same when trail running. It's difficult to explain but you feel a great sense of well being on the trail. Hiking is close and asphalt jogging is 180 degree different thing altogether.

As the days get shorter I will be running with a headlamp in darkness. A little protection will improve my peace of mind.
 
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