Trident and Trident II

Yo Ron,

uh, you tellin' me that size matters ??

and all this time I just thought I knew what I was talking about.

re. "balance": don't forget a 2002tii.

re. "rarely breaks": I'm quite surprised to hear that dropping a knife could/would/can/might snap the blade. It just doesn't seem possible to generate inertial loads sufficient to cause breakage. I might be convinced that throwing could cause breakage, but not merely dropping.
Now armed with this new knowledge I shall be doubly careful to never drop my SOG's.

Cheers,

Carl
 
Hey Carl,
New Pig Hunter said:
Yo Ron,

uh, you tellin' me that size matters ??

and all this time I just thought I knew what I was talking about.
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No, it's just how you use it! ;) (that's a far as I'll go in a rated G forum).

New Pig Hunter said:
re. "rarely breaks": I'm quite surprised to hear that dropping a knife could/would/can/might snap the blade. It just doesn't seem possible to generate inertial loads sufficient to cause breakage. I might be convinced that throwing could cause breakage, but not merely dropping.
Now armed with this new knowledge I shall be doubly careful to never drop my SOG's.
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Regarding "rarely breaks," I could have shown you some SEAL Knife 2000s, SOG Bowies, and Tridents (one Trident and one SEAL Knife comes vividly to mind).
 
Ron,

that's quite amazing to think that a big slab o' steel would be so brittle.

Tell y'all what I'm gonna do: I'll be at my dad's place next weekend, I'll "borrow" a few of his big ol' metal files for some drop testing. What with a file being very hard and very brittle, some experimentation is in order. I'll make the initial assumption that a knife blade is not as brittle as a file.

Cheers,

Carl

p.s. I'm still quite amazed that a knife blade would be so brittle.

p.p.s. maybe Robbie is on to something here re. his "polish and not use" safe queen policy..... nah, never mind. SOG's are for using.
 
Carl, don't worry, you've used them for a long time and never broke one, I don't think you have to worry. :D

Besides, if you did happen to drop one and it broke, don't you think SOG would give you a new one ? :)

Dropping one and breaking it would be the least of my worries............. :rolleyes: Though I'm sure it's been done, along with a lot of other strange stories.

Robbie Roberson :D
 
Carl,
New Pig Hunter said:
Ron,

that's quite amazing to think that a big slab o' steel would be so brittle.
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Remember, though...not all broke. Those that did either 1) were defective or 2) were dropped "just right" and was a fluke...certainly not "status quo."

Now, I need to know if you're going to be "drop testing" all your SOGs? If you're not careful, your testing methods will have a familiar ring to old Soggers and other old timers here on BFC. On that topic, does your dad live up in Newfoundland? ;)
 
Well I finally got an answer to my question. Serena at Absolute Knives said she spoke to a SOG rep and they said the Trident II was made in Taiwan of Japanese components. A big thanks to Serena and Absolute knives!

John
 
Ron,

no intent to drop-test my SOG's.... I'll continue to use 'em and should they fail in service, well, that will be dealt with then.

Cheers,

Carl
 
If you use a knife you will eventually drop it....

I have two of the older Tridents. The one that I use has been dropped several times onto concrete from about 5 ft or so. And of course, murphy's law always dictate that it must hit tip first. The knife has not broken and still looks good. It has wear marks on the blade, but that is from use. Of course mine is the .28 inch older model, not your puny .22 inch model :D

Just kidding, I am sure the edge profile isn't much different in either
 
Hey Chris,
JTC said:
Well I finally got an answer to my question. Serena at Absolute Knives said she spoke to a SOG rep and they said the Trident II was made in Taiwan of Japanese components. A big thanks to Serena and Absolute knives!

John
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John did some research and came up with this answer from Absolute Knives [thanks, John!]. I know from first-hand experience that the distributors' understanding of these technical issues are often shaky, at best.

Can you confirm or clarify this for us not only in relationship to the Trident II, but other of the new fixed blades (see my original post on this topic).

Thanks! :)
 
NuclearBossHog said:
are the older thicker tridents still available anywhere?
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I'm sure you could get one off E-bay and there are probably quite a few stores that still have them in stock. ;)
 
Ron and Everyone.

I can confirm the origin of the Trident II. It is being made in Taiwan of Japanese parts. We have been working closely with one of our vendors in sourcing this product in a more cost effective manner. We were impressed with the quality of the product samples we received from Taiwan. Only after verifying and being assured that we could still offer the legendary SOG quality, durability and construction did we decide to start production of some new knives in Taiwan.

I think that once you see and handle these knives you will be hard pressed to find the differences between the original Trident and Trident II, apart from the thickness of the blade. Actually there have been a couple times when I grabbed a Trident and at first glance I could not figure out if I had the Trident or Trident II. I had to actually analyze the knife to figure out which one I had.

I hope that this helps clarify lingering questions on this subject. If there is anything else please let me know.

Chris
 
Chris@SOG said:
Ron and Everyone.

I can confirm the origin of the Trident II. It is being made in Taiwan of Japanese parts. We have been working closely with one of our vendors in sourcing this product in a more cost effective manner. We were impressed with the quality of the product samples we received from Taiwan. Only after verifying and being assured that we could still offer the legendary SOG quality, durability and construction did we decide to start production of some new knives in Taiwan.

I think that once you see and handle these knives you will be hard pressed to find the differences between the original Trident and Trident II, apart from the thickness of the blade. Actually there have been a couple times when I grabbed a Trident and at first glance I could not figure out if I had the Trident or Trident II. I had to actually analyze the knife to figure out which one I had.

I hope that this helps clarify lingering questions on this subject. If there is anything else please let me know.

Chris
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So, what your saying is that size doesn't matter :eek:

Ive always believed in that
 
Thanks, Chris. I knew there was a transfer happening from Japan to Taiwan, but I didn't know the extent.
 
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