Triumph of the American Spirit - 3 cheers for Floyd Landis!

mwerner said:
I'll hold judgement till they do the further tests, but...

Damn depressing, I'd say.
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maybe, just maybe, thinking cynically, so to speak, somebody slipped something in that beer???

Otherwise, his dissappearance prior to the races in Denmark and the Netherlands does lead to ugly presumptions... And was he tested prior to the criterium he won on Tuesday???

:mad:
 
Let's not jump to conclusions.

Landis' B sample of urine could still pass the doping test. I mean, he would have been really stoopid to buy both the A and B samples from the same place :D
 
cstorr2004 said:
More ammo for the French media....
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What are you talking about? I have looked at the news this evening (it's 20:20 here):i don't have heard we were in war with you. I'm disappointed and sad, that's all. Why do you make of an usual doping problem in a cycle race a new reason of suspicion? Is it so sweet to hate? Not for me. All what i think about ( if further tests confirm the first one) is : too beautiful to be true, as often.

Sorry, anyway.

dantzk.
 
dantzk:

I did not mean for it to come across that way. I love the French!! I was only referring to the French newspaper L'Equip, which is owned by the organizers of the Tour de France. They have continually accused Lance Armstrong of doping. What I meant was that this will give them more material, even though it has nothing to do with Lance.

http://www.thewaterglass.net/archives/001828.html
 
cstorr2004 said:
dantzk:

I did not mean for it to come across that way. I love the French!! I was only referring to the French newspaper L'Equip, which is owned by the organizers of the Tour de France. They have continually accused Lance Armstrong of doping. What I meant was that this will give them more material, even though it has nothing to do with Lance.
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Then i apologize. I never read L'Equipe which is a rag (i hope i well translate the french word: "torchon") and you shouldn't take care of it. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

dantzk.
 
dantzk8 said:
Then i apologize. I never read L'Equipe which is a rag (i hope i well translate the french word: "torchon") and you shouldn't take care of it. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

dantzk.
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:) :thumbup:
 
If this turns out to be true, then the guy I really feel sorry for is Pereiro, who would end up being cheated out of his rightful glory and adulation.

Second-place finisher Pereiro said he was in no mood to celebrate.

"Should I win the Tour now it would feel like an academic victory," Pereiro told The Associated Press at his home in Vigo, Spain. "The way to celebrate a win is in Paris, otherwise it's just a bureaucratic win."
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If the doping charges stick, Landis's career will be over and he'll be remembered as a first class jerk. If the second sample turns out to be negative then you have to wonder how susceptible to error the testing really is, or whether tampering was involved. That'll make the Tour look stupid.

No matter what happens, this Tour will always be tainted.
 
panella said:
No matter what happens, this Tour will always be tainted.
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Precisley... if I spelled it right... :(

And now I belive a German media group is planning on dropping coverage of the Tour next year unless they can be guaranteed the doping issues are resolved prior to the race... And I can't say I blame them....

Probably one of the saddest events in 'cycling history, regardless of how this turns out...
 
So what's the conclusion? The last I heard they had determined that the testosterone in his system was not naturally produced. Has Phonak fired him? Is the runner up now the one with the title. Is he being shunned by the Mennonites?
 
Melissa Theuriau...the only good thing about the French media:

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Triton said:
So what's the conclusion? The last I heard they had determined that the testosterone in his system was not naturally produced. Has Phonak fired him? Is the runner up now the one with the title. Is he being shunned by the Mennonites?
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He’s been fired. It’s only a matter of time before he is stripped of his title. Things will be tied up in courts for the next few months, then he will be banned for 2 years. If he ever came back, it would be to a “B” team likely, not a Protour team. Other dopers have made a return to procycling, namely David miller (who had the balls to admit that he cheated) and Tyler Hamilton next month. As a disgraced tour “winner” I doubt steroid Floyd will ever ride in the tour again.
 
personally, I don't believe he intentionally took anything... that would simply be the stupidest thing ANYBODY would avoid doing, especially KNOWING you'll be tested again...

Which leads me to three conclusions:

1) He did it and IS stupid;

2) Somebody spiked something (H2O, the Jack Daniels, the samples! :confused: );

3) or... It was the food - all those hormones being injected in all those European cows!!!! ;)

And none of us will ever look at a Tour winner the same way again... Too much up and down and just plain political ugliness (the doping group breaking their own rules to publicize the results BEFORE telling him..) :mad:


Enough... Anybody watch the X-Games and that DOUBLE BACK-FLIP on a motorcycle???? :eek:
 
What a shame, I would have thought most people would be happy enough to qualify for the race itself.

Synthetic tesse, ouch! Pretty hard to explain that away.
 
joeshredd said:
personally, I don't believe he intentionally took anything...
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I agree. It makes no sense. It takes weeks for the human body to realize performance enhancements from synthetic testosterone.

I believe Landis.
 
DRM said:
I agree. It makes no sense. It takes weeks for the human body to realize performance enhancements from synthetic testosterone.

I believe Landis.
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There are new studies that show, in the short term, testosterone assists the body in recovering quickly from a depleted state. The studies, however, from what I've read, are all pretty recent...

Still sucks... :grumpy:
 
If you are a young man in your late teens to early twenties and take 'Tesse' you will be putting about 40lbs a week extra on your benchpress bar. Thats how well it works. Usually its an IM injection, I havent heard of it being taken orally although its been a couple of decades since I was around the stuff. There is a wait period though for it to work, its not like speed, but you will usually see some performace increase in about 5-10 days.

It also put a hell of a lot of weight on you too, that why the Bodybuilders like it, but I would have thought, given the sophistication of todays drugs that it was an odd choice considering the discipline. Hmmm.
 
Temper said:
Usually its an IM injection, I havent heard of it being taken orally although its been a couple of decades since I was around the stuff. Hmmm.
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According the US sprinter who was just permenatly banned (IIRC), there are sports creams that can be applied topically that have testosterone in them. There is also the practice of injecting testosterone into animals to bulk 'em up for the table... I'm betting, barring Landis being stupid or a liar, that this is the liklyest possibility... Outside of the purposeful tampering by someone to the samples.. I mean, who is actually responsible for the chain of possession from bladder to lab??? :(
 
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