Tropen Thoughts/Reviews?

Lapedog said:
Dude sorry but you’re wrong. If that exposed edge is sharp then it is far from impossible to cut yourself with it.

With the compression lock on the spine side of the knife that exposed edge will be facing the inside of your pocket if you have the knife clipped to the far right hip side of your pocket.

If I reach into that pocket past the knife there is nothing preventing my hand from contacting that blade. Yeah true I could be extra aware every time I raach into the pocket to attempt to avoid the issue. However eventually I might reach into my pocket carelessly and hit that exposed blade.

Not to mention what about the stuff in my pocket hitting that blade? A leather wallet won’t survive long against a sharp edge.

@Sal Glesser can we get a final word what is going on with this Tropen? I apologize as I’m sure you likely answered this before but I haven’t been able to find it.

What is the story with that exposed edge on the tropen? Is it sharpened? I have heard the argument that it’s not an issue because your finger will be pushed out of the way by the flipper; but what about reaching into your pocket with that exposed edge in there? What about if your finger slips off the flipper while you are opening the knife? Seems like it would land right on this exposed edge.
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Sorry but it's you who are wrong. I won't belabor the point w/you further here. I'll leave to others who actually buy and carry the knife to share their comments later.
 
sgt1372 said:
Sorry but it's you who are wrong. I won't the point w/you further here. I'll leave to others who actually buy and carry the knife to share their comments later.
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Can you explain how the exposed blade cannot cut you? How can an exposed blade not cut you? That doesn’t make any sense. Can you put your finger on the exposed blade when the knife is closed? Guess what, then it can cut you.

You’re basically arguing that if I drop a few of these in my pocket there is no way they could cut me while I’m reaching around in there.

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4mer_FMF said:
I’m glad to see opinions from folks who have handled the knife!

The blade shape, grind, blade/handle ratio and especially the polished G-10 excite me. (Spyderco’s poloshed G-10 is luscious!)

I haven’t heard anyone comment on detent. Is the detent strong enough for “satisfying” flipper deployment? How easily can the blade shake out?
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Not sure if this is an example of how easy it is to shake every example open.

 
Lapedog said:
Can you explain how the exposed blade cannot cut you?
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I already did and the exposed edge of the blade is NOT anything like a bare safety edge razor blade. If you actually read my comments, you'd already understand this.

Please don't resort to distortion and hyperbole to try to argue your position, especially if you don't even own the knife and have not carried it yet.
 
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sgt1372 said:
I already did and the exposed edge of the blade is NOT anything like a bare safety edge razor blade. If you actually read my comments, you'd already understand this.
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Actually your point was that you wouldn’t grip the knife there when drawing it from the pocket. Well duh.

Your finger can still hit that exposed edge unintentionally. When you aren’t even grabbing your knife, when you are getting something else out of your pocket.

Exposed edges can cut. I don’t know how you can possibly argue they can’t. Especially when they’re sitting exposed in a tight space like a pocket where your hand is reaching around in. Also facing the direction your hand would pass by the knife.

I don’t have to be a mechanic to know when a car is broke and I don’t have to own the Tropen to know an exposed edge will cut.

You yourself admitted if you intentionally put your finger on that exposed edge you could cut it. Well guess what, your finger may come into contact with that edge unintentionally. Stuff happens. People crash cars and stub their toes and do things to hurt themselves that wouldn’t have happened if they were paying attention.
 
Lapedog said:
You yourself admitted if you intentionally put your finger on that exposed edge you could cut it. Well guess what, your finger may come into contact with that edge unintentionally.
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I said that it "might be possible: but that it would be very hard to do even if you tried to do it intentionally, because you have to FORCE your finger down towards the blade edge.

FWIW, I just repeatedly ran my finger along the inside edge of the gimped rim of the lock bar guard immediately above the blade edge and have not cut myself yet. It just can't happen w/o some intent and stupidity on the part of the person who does it.

You obviously feel compelled to talk trash about this knife w/o a factual basis to do so. So, while I took the bait again, this is now my last comment on this point. I just hope others who actually buy and carry the knife will offer their observations further.

Ciao! EOM on this point.
 
sgt1372 said:
I said that it "might be possible: but that it would be very hard to do even if you tried to do it intentionally, because you have to FORCE your finger down towards the blade edge.

FWIW, I just repeatedly ran my finger along the inside edge of the gimped rim of the lock bar guard immediately above the blade edge and have not cut myself yet. It just can't happen w/o some intent and stupidity on the part of the person who does it.

You obviously feel compelled to talk trash about this knife w/o a factual basis to do so. So, while I took the bait again, this is now my last comment on this point. I just hope others who actually buy and carry the knife will offer their observations further.

Ciao! EOM on this point.
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:rolleyes:

Sorry I hurt your knife’s feelings there buddy.

Running your finger along the gimping is not what will cut you. Try running your finger along the exposed edge.

People complain about unexposed edges being too close to the spine of the handle when a folder is closed as being dangerous. Having a section of the blade actually exposed is obviously far worse.

Anyway I know your position on it. You’re right, I hope some other Tropen owners will comment but I have a feeling many people who were going to buy this knife passed on it for the very fact of that exposed edge.

Infact I am one of those people who would have bought this knife if it weren’t an exposed edge sitting in my pocket. I don’t carry my folders with the blade part way open for the same reason.
 
Can someone with the knife point to the exposed parts and explain how it does or doesn't pose a hazard? All these long-winded explanations are tough for me to understand without a picture
 
ribstabsheart said:
Can someone with the knife point to the exposed parts and explain how it does or doesn't pose a hazard? All these long-winded explanations are tough for me to understand without a picture
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Look in the lockbar cut out just below the flipper tab.

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Safe or nah?
 
Well, I got mine, and i absolutely love this thing, design flaw and all. The g10 is beautiful and the knife is the best fit and finish I've seen on a spyderco, and I own many.

As for.the exposed edge, im not worried about getting cut. Itd be aweful hard to, but I just cant say itd be impossible. But I kinda think it's funny, it's like the tropin has a stupid tax.

I still don't get why spyderco would release it considering how litigious people seem to be but I'm glad they did. It's an extremely beautiful and well built knife. Its flips fantastically.The polished g10 just melts into the hand and its kinda blowing my other spydercos, taichungs included, out the water.
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
Well, I got mine, and i absolutely love this thing, design flaw and all. The g10 is beautiful and the knife is the best fit and finish I've seen on a spyderco, and I own many.

As for.the exposed edge, im not worried about getting cut. Itd be aweful hard to, but I just cant say itd be impossible. But I kinda think it's funny, it's like the tropin has a stupid tax.

I still don't get why spyderco would release it considering how litigious people seem to be but I'm glad they did. It's an extremely beautiful and well built knife. Its flips fantastically.The polished g10 just melts into the hand and its kinda blowing my other spydercos, taichungs included, out the water.
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It is a super beautiful knife. I feel like if it wasn’t for the flaw this thing would be an absolute cqc8 killer.

Is it really that hard to cut yourself on the exposed edge? I was considering getting one and putting a choil there or maybe just flattening the exposed edge
 
Lapedog said:
It is a super beautiful knife. I feel like if it wasn’t for the flaw this thing would be an absolute cqc8 killer.

Is it really that hard to cut yourself on the exposed edge? I was considering getting one and putting a choil there or maybe just flattening the exposed edge
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If you set out to cut yourself on the edge, you'll soon be bleedin, but unless you are really doing it on purpose I dont see how you could get a bad cut in almost any situation. If you were to run your finger from the compression lock side over the blade it could "cheese grater" you a little, but I can even do that without any worry unless i really push down and try to make it happen. Other than that you'd really have to place a finger over it and kind of help it slice to cut yourself in any significant way. Idiot's are gunna cut themselves to see if they can get cut lol. But that's probably about it.
 
Part of the appeal of Comp. Lock for me is being able to depress the tab and "fling" the blade open...

Likewise, once open, I like to depress the blade and "fling" the blade closed-- employing a slight wrist flick + the blade's weight creates enough inertia to bring the blade back home to nest.

It's a similar process to how you can open/close Axis locks. I routinely <safely> use my PM2 like this.

I sold my Shaman on the Exchange because the fore-ward choil nib would "bump" my finger on the tab when I closed it like I described above...it was annoying as hell to me.

At least the Shaman was just annoying...this one looks like an index finger pad guillotine. :eek:

This model's got me shaking my head....
 
Lapedog said:
Not sure if this is an example of how easy it is to shake every example open.
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Thanks. :thumbsup:
However I must say that I’ve learned the hard way not seek information on knives via YouTube. I frequent many channels, but it’s entertainment only, as far as I’m concerned.

I’m still curious to get a Tropen in hand before committing. Still, a Bladeforums concensus carries a lot more weight than most other mediums.
 
PeteyTwoPointOne said:
Part of the appeal of Comp. Lock for me is being able to depress the tab and "fling" the blade open...

Likewise, once open, I like to depress the blade and "fling" the blade closed-- employing a slight wrist flick + the blade's weight creates enough inertia to bring the blade back home to nest.

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You can do that.
 
I too was concerned about the exposed edge when I first saw the design, and like others I thought the heel of the edge would either be dull like the Mamba or otherwise removed in the final version. But after handling it, I'm no longer very concerned. I don't actually own one but I did handle one at the Taipei Meet. I could touch the edge if I tried, but due to the design of the cutout, the flipper which creates a raised surface away from the edge, and the thickness of the scales which also creates a surface away from the edge, the resulting angle at which you can actually contact the edge actually makes it quite difficult to cut yourself (and yes, I did try, and my fingers are also fairly thin). Also, the detent strength and shape of the flipper actually make it difficult to slip off the flipper and misflip, so I think it would be highly unlikely for someone to cut themselves that way.

Overall, I'd say the optics of having the edge there aren't great, but practically speaking I'd agree that it shouldn't be an issue.
 
Is it just me or does this knife make you shake your head. I know Spyderco pushes the boundaries with not so ordinary knives and some weird looking ones, but this one is just hideous. LOL I just don’t get it I guess..
 
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