Tru-Sharp I am pretty impressed

I quit worrying about it when I read on this board somewhere where a guy did a CV vs Tru Sharp test on two otherwise identical peanuts.

His results were something like all he could prove was he could cut 134 - 14 inch slices in cardboard with the CV vs 128 - 14 inch slices with the Tru Sharp. That told me Tru Sharp is good enough. All a personal preference.
 
I quit worrying about it when I read on this board somewhere where a guy did a CV vs Tru Sharp test on two otherwise identical peanuts.

His results were something like all he could prove was he could cut 134 - 14 inch slices in cardboard with the CV vs 128 - 14 inch slices with the Tru Sharp. That told me Tru Sharp is good enough. All a personal preference.

I think that was Jackknife that did that test. He's a real cut-up! :D
 
Case's QC does seem to be top of the line these days. Both the tru-sharp, and CV bladed Case's have been slowly taking over my EDC lineup. Jackknife, and the rest of you who strop your blades what kind of strop do you use and what do you load it with? I strop most of my blades, and normally use the back of a belt that is glued to a board, and loaded with Tripoli buffing compound. Is there a better, or more traditional approach? thanks, Joe

My approach is very simple and low tech. In fact it's the exact same way my dad did his pocket knife. I took a 5 gallon wooden paint stir stick, one of those flat ones, and cut it off about 10 inches in front of the tapered handle part. On one side I glued a strip of leather rough side up, and on the other side of the stir stick I glued a strip of leather smooth side up. My glue was good old liquid nails because its what I keep around the house for repairs.

I start with some strokes on the rough side, and finish with a dozen or so strokes on the smooth side, and then try a slice on some newsprint. If it slices clean, then I'm done. No rocket science, just a doen strokes on each side. It just takes a few minutes after dinner, and Karen is used to my odd habits by now. I don't even have the leather charged with anything. I suppose I could, but it's like in the field, where I've been known to take my belt half off and strop right there if need be. I'd rather strop more and use a stone less.
 
I quit worrying about it when I read on this board somewhere where a guy did a CV vs Tru Sharp test on two otherwise identical peanuts.

His results were something like all he could prove was he could cut 134 - 14 inch slices in cardboard with the CV vs 128 - 14 inch slices with the Tru Sharp. That told me Tru Sharp is good enough. All a personal preference.

Being this late at night and with a few toddies under my belt, I don't recall how much of a difference it was. But I do recall I had to work at it to find one. I cut alot of cardboard and hemp once in a while to just experiment with knives to see what they do. I have come to some conclusions, right or wrong, but in my experiance. I don't believe that half of the steel snobs over in the general forum, who are demanding the latest greatest steel since Conan's people stole the secret of steel, would notice the difference in what they carry in a day to day life. If you could by some sneaky means replace the blade on thier whiz bang tactical with an identical one made of the same stuff that Case true sharp or Buck's Paul Bos treated 420HC, or even the mystery steel that Victorinox uses, most of them would never notice.

And another thing I have a suspsion of; I wonder REALLY just how good and consistant was the heat treat in "the good old days?" I mean, now we have computer controled digital ovens, with to the degree accuracy over the heat treat, and I wonder just how good was the old stuff. Our knowledge of metalurgy is vastly better now than it was 50 years ago, thats for sure! I've taken some old knives from the pre-WW2 era, and they did not cut any better than my modern stainless stuff, and in a couple of cases, not as well. I wonder if I could take some of those old beauties that smiling-knife has from the heyday of Sheffield, how would they stack up against a modern Case, or even a Victorinox tinker?

Our grandfathers often bought that one pocket knife, and used it till it was used up. Sometimes that took many years. When they had to, they simple bought another one. A pocket knife was a tool to them, not an object of worship like it is to us knife knuts. If it got dull, they sharpened it. And in their lives they were more of an outdoor job type than alot of us. In the last 50 years America has moved from a mostly rural agrerrian society, to a mostly urban/suburban techno society. More of us sit in an office cubicle than ever before, and need a pocket knife less than our grandads ever did. It must say something that the most popular produced pocket knife in the world is the Victorinox classic. Alot of you problably know someone who carries one if you don't carry one yourself. I recall seing it on the cover of one of the knife rags, and it was billed as the most confiscated knife at airports.

Jeez, I must be a bit shot, I forgot where I was going with this runnig off. Oh yes, I think that with our modern knowledge of metals, and the pinpoint accuracy of modern heat treat equiptment, I think our modern stainless is for the most part just as good as the old carbon steels our grandads used in the pre-WW2 era. There are some carbons that are better than the stainless, but I think for the most part the difference is not something that will be noticed in normal use. In fact, I think in some ways a stainless blade may be a better choice. Since 1963, Buck has made lots of 110 folding hunters, and it converted a couple of whole generations of knife users to stainless. I know it did me.

There's an old British army saying "Never touch liquor before sundown, but never go to bed quite sober."

Goodnight gentlemen.
 
Yep, the guys that "couldn't possibly own a knife with mere 420 steel" crack me up. It's sorta like the gun guys who think anything worse than a 3#, no creep, crystalline break trigger make a gun "unshootable". If one can afford the best of the best that's nice, but don't try to make it sound like anything less is "useless". Snobbery, pure and simple.

And most of these guys don't cut anything with their knives, anyway. It's really a glorified conversation piece at best used to open the morning mail.

I read a stat recently that indicated in (I think) 1900 less than 3% of the world's population lived in cities. It's set to pass 50% in the next couple of years.

-- Sam
 
Well, it's a fact that most knives bought are never really used. Between not knowing how properly sharpen and not using knives the knives that they buy, having high performance steels are pointless. It's like having a corvette and never breaking the speed limit. What a waste.
 
Jackknife thanks for the reply about the strop, and sharing more of your views on the topic. I am going to give an un loaded strop like yours a try and see how I like it, thanks again. Joe
 
I'm one of those who is on the steel snob side of things. However, probably my most used knife is my Vic Cadet. :) A well sharpened edge on my SAK gets very sharp. It isn't the longest lasting edge but it also is very easy to resharpen to a killer sharp edge. I don't have any of the Case TS but if it acts like the SAK steel it is good stuff.
 
Yep, the guys that "couldn't possibly own a knife with mere 420 steel" crack me up. It's sorta like the gun guys who think anything worse than a 3#, no creep, crystalline break trigger make a gun "unshootable". If one can afford the best of the best that's nice, but don't try to make it sound like anything less is "useless". Snobbery, pure and simple.

And most of these guys don't cut anything with their knives, anyway. It's really a glorified conversation piece at best used to open the morning mail.

I read a stat recently that indicated in (I think) 1900 less than 3% of the world's population lived in cities. It's set to pass 50% in the next couple of years.

-- Sam

Very true! I find it interesting that the most influential knife companies use what some would call "inferior steel" in the majority of their knives, yet mysteriously continue to be the largest, best selling knife companies on the planet.
 
... the most influential knife companies use what some would call "inferior steel" in the majority of their knives, yet mysteriously continue to be the largest, best selling knife companies on the planet.

I am NOT a steel snob and I agree with the thrust of your argument. But be wary of phrasing it like that ....... after all MacDonald's sells more hamburgers than anyone on the planet. Are they the best-tasting burgers? :barf:
 
I am NOT a steel snob and I agree with the thrust of your argument. But be wary of phrasing it like that ....... after all MacDonald's sells more hamburgers than anyone on the planet. Are they the best-tasting burgers? :barf:

Nope, but either way, they go down the toilet getting the job done.:D
 
Case really is doing a better job these days. I'll stick with the carbon steel, I just don't care for a shiny blade :)
 
I agree about Case getting the quality RIGHT, 4 knives arrived this week and they are ALL very OK. I LIKE the shiny aspect of their SS but it's good to have the choice of decent carbon and decent stainless, that is the evidence of progress because I suspect that stainless was preety useless before the mid 70s.It's just got better all the time.
 
I agree about Case getting the quality RIGHT, 4 knives arrived this week and they are ALL very OK. I LIKE the shiny aspect of their SS but it's good to have the choice of decent carbon and decent stainless, that is the evidence of progress because I suspect that stainless was preety useless before the mid 70s.It's just got better all the time.


Actually I recently tried using a mid 70's Case stainless knife (6318SSP) and it was awesome - probably better than the current 420. I think that Case SS went downhill in the early 80's though.
 
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