True Detective Knives

To keep it knife-related whilst we discuss the failures or successes of the season thus far:

Was the knife Kitsch's character (the highway patrolman with commitment issues) was twirling that he put down when McAdams scowled at him anything special? It didn't appear to be one that she regularly carried, and it looked fairly plain. I like plain, understated knives, but it also means if they are anything good I may not recognize them on sight.
 
Not sure which one he was twirling, but he had an Emerson CQQ 7 when they were breaking into the orgy mansion.
 
benchwarmer380 said:
Not sure which one he was twirling, but he had an Emerson CQQ 7 when they were breaking into the orgy mansion.
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Looked like a small fixed blade.

I noticed the knife during the break-in but was not sure the make and model, nice catch.

Farrell appears to carry a Griptilian (or some very Benchmade-ish clip knife) but I don't think I've seen him use it yet.

Lots of cool knives this season, kinda makes up for the disappointment.
 
RedLynx said:
To keep it knife-related whilst we discuss the failures or successes of the season thus far:

Was the knife Kitsch's character (the highway patrolman with commitment issues) was twirling that he put down when McAdams scowled at him anything special? It didn't appear to be one that she regularly carried, and it looked fairly plain. I like plain, understated knives, but it also means if they are anything good I may not recognize them on sight.
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It was either a CS Culloden or a CS Braveheart. The one I want to know about is the big bowie the Mexican dude in the black hat has.
 
crom said:
It was either a CS Culloden or a CS Braveheart. The one I want to know about is the big bowie the Mexican dude in the black hat has.
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Must have been the Culloden, Cold Steel said they noticed the knife in the series. As I'm not familiar with that model, I didn't recognize it.

Wish I could help with the bowie identification, but I'm largely unfamiliar with this subset of knives beyond their basic shape/look.
 
Season 2 of True Detective is based upon/off of a true story of the city Vernon, CA and its deceased Mayor. The stink as I remember it was that town officials were getting paid multiples of what other CA city officials earned and the town was blown apart by death(Eric Fresch city manager)/corruption investigation. I read the story years ago and this TV series adds some imaginative color. The training knife in the last episode looked to my sore eyes like a BM Nimravus partially serrated.



Here is an auto BM Presidio:



BM Nimravus PS:


Here is a link to a published story in case you are wondering just how full of it I am: http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-vernon-true-detective-20150619-story.html & http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ective-based-real-California-city-Vernon.html
 
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I'm gonna stay in the moment; enjoy Raymond and Frank's respective slow burns and wait till it's over to be glad or mad.

RedLynx said:
I'm not really attempting to give a "total recap" but your light-hearted snark is something I will choose to appreciate rather than deride. ;)

Yes, unless you are not up to speed on the latest episode (seems like you are) we are fully aware that the crimes are very different, both in motive and nature. That's one of the few points the show has made clear.

Of course it isn't season one, that's also obvious. But this is a risk with anthology type series (which in general I appreciate.) Not all are going to be as good as the others. BUT, the next season has every potential to be much better.

If you are enjoying it as much as the first one, good for you. :thumbup:
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Oregon,

That backstory info is interesting, kinda nice to know it was based on a true thing (murder and such notwithstanding of course.)
 
Guess I'm different. I've been enjoying this season more than last season. I like dark, disturbed, and damaged characters with personal demons in they past, because I can relate. And this show has a variety of such characters. And the actors play them well.

I like that the main characters in this season seem to have more back story than the first season.

In particular, the story that Vince Vaughn's character told his wife about being locked in the basement by his abusive father, how after three days the light bulb burned out, and then the rats came. That kind of back story says a lot about a person/character. At least it does to me, because I've known people like that. I think it was a great scene, especially the reaction of his wife when she learned something so dark and traumatic about the man she loves, and how it played a part in making him who he is.
 
killgar said:
Guess I'm different. I've been enjoying this season more than last season. I like dark, disturbed, and damaged characters with personal demons in they past, because I can relate. And this show has a variety of such characters. And the actors play them well.

I like that the main characters in this season seem to have more back story than the first season.

In particular, the story that Vince Vaughn's character told his wife about being locked in the basement by his abusive father, how after three days the light bulb burned out, and then the rats came. That kind of back story says a lot about a person/character. At least it does to me, because I've known people like that. I think it was a great scene, especially the reaction of his wife when she learned something so dark and traumatic about the man she loves, and how it played a part in making him who he is.
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There are certainly little gems in this season that I appreciate (indeed, very haunting backstory for Vaughan's character). I, too, enjoy dark dramas (Scandinavia does this particularly well) but on the whole this one isn't adding up for me like it did last season.

There are definitely things to appreciate, however. And even if I don't care for this season as much, I hope there are enough that do to keep the ratings strong enough for another season.

I will say, I do prefer the intro to this season, with the visuals and Leonard Cohen.
 
RedLynx said:
Oregon,

That backstory info is interesting, kinda nice to know it was based on a true thing (murder and such notwithstanding of course.)
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The crime blotter gets my attention because, like most of us, I work in a field where the rules are densely packed and virtually eliminate any unequivocal swift angry drastic action. The Vernon city mngr. died falling off his bike... Really. I've ridden thousands of miles on bicycles on and off road in cities and country side and, well, never died. Suspicious way to go IMHO for the Vernon mngr.
 
oregon said:
The crime blotter gets my attention because, like most of us, I work in a field where the rules are densely packed and virtually eliminate any unequivocal swift angry drastic action. The Vernon city mngr. died falling off his bike... Really. I've ridden thousands of miles on bicycles on and off road in cities and country side and, well, never died. Suspicious way to go IMHO for the Vernon mngr.
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You don't say? Was that listed as a catalyst for his death or was it more he happened to die while riding and thus fell?

Suspicious, indeed.
 
RedLynx said:
You don't say? Was that listed as a catalyst for his death or was it more he happened to die while riding and thus fell?

Suspicious, indeed.
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Stories conflict in the above cited articles but here is an excerpt from the first one (and there were a string of City officials with issues):

"Eric T. Fresch, a former city administrator and city attorney who became a legal consultant, made $1.6 million in 2008 as administrator. In June 2012, Fresch's body was found in the rocky waters off a state park in the Bay Area. He died just hours after a state audit released a grim picture of Vernon's finances and questioned decisions made when Fresch was Vernon's top administrator. The Marin County coroner's office said his death was an accident, caused when Fresch slipped while walking on wet rocks on Angel Island and struck his head."

The second article says this about Fresch's death:
""Then there is the fact that the action on True Detective this season centers around the death of a city manager, something that really happened in Vernon a few years back.
Eric Fresch, a city administrator, was found to make making over $1million a year due to an outside consulting contract with a city-owned operation, and was forced to resign in 2012.
A month later he was found dead under very suspicious circumstances.
he and his wife were riding bikes around Angel Island State Park on San Francisco Bay when she claimed they became separated, calling police soon after to report him missing.
He was found at the bottom of a 150 foot embankment, dead in the shoreline.
Some say he may have fallen off his bike, others that might have been a possible suicide."
 
oregon said:
Stories conflict in the above cited articles but here is an excerpt from the first one (and there were a string of City officials with issues):

"Eric T. Fresch, a former city administrator and city attorney who became a legal consultant, made $1.6 million in 2008 as administrator. In June 2012, Fresch's body was found in the rocky waters off a state park in the Bay Area. He died just hours after a state audit released a grim picture of Vernon's finances and questioned decisions made when Fresch was Vernon's top administrator. The Marin County coroner's office said his death was an accident, caused when Fresch slipped while walking on wet rocks on Angel Island and struck his head."
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Thanks mate.

Like you I am often drawn to suspicious true crime incidents.
 
oregon said:
The crime blotter gets my attention because, like most of us, I work in a field where the rules are densely packed and virtually eliminate any unequivocal swift angry drastic action. The Vernon city mngr. died falling off his bike... Really. I've ridden thousands of miles on bicycles on and off road in cities and country side and, well, never died. Suspicious way to go IMHO for the Vernon mngr.
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RedLynx said:
You don't say? Was that listed as a catalyst for his death or was it more he happened to die while riding and thus fell?

Suspicious, indeed.
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oregon said:
Stories conflict in the above cited articles but here is an excerpt from the first one (and there were a string of City officials with issues):

"Eric T. Fresch, a former city administrator and city attorney who became a legal consultant, made $1.6 million in 2008 as administrator. In June 2012, Fresch's body was found in the rocky waters off a state park in the Bay Area. He died just hours after a state audit released a grim picture of Vernon's finances and questioned decisions made when Fresch was Vernon's top administrator. The Marin County coroner's office said his death was an accident, caused when Fresch slipped while walking on wet rocks on Angel Island and struck his head."

The second article says this about Fresch's death:
""Then there is the fact that the action on True Detective this season centers around the death of a city manager, something that really happened in Vernon a few years back.
Eric Fresch, a city administrator, was found to make making over $1million a year due to an outside consulting contract with a city-owned operation, and was forced to resign in 2012.
A month later he was found dead under very suspicious circumstances.
he and his wife were riding bikes around Angel Island State Park on San Francisco Bay when she claimed they became separated, calling police soon after to report him missing.
He was found at the bottom of a 150 foot embankment, dead in the shoreline.
Some say he may have fallen off his bike, others that might have been a possible suicide."
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Statisically, not that many people die via bicycle every year (stats below for 2013) BUT if you happen to be one of the few that do, well, it is possible. Obviously, some people, like Oregon can go for thousands of miles and not die. I personally have ridden a few thousand miles over the years. Some people are killed shortly after they get on a bicycle for the first time. It's all a matter of how safe you ride, where you ride, who the other roadies around you are, etc. Helmets have really reduced the number of serious head injuries and fatalities. Two of my five concussions were bicycle fall related - either could have resulted in a serious/fatal head injury had I hit differently. (The other 3 were from playing catcher in baseball and softball).

Snitched from an online report...
Who is getting killed in bicycling crashes?

A detailed breakdown of the age, gender, and location of bicycle crash victims is available from The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Some of the more noteworthy trends and numbers are:

The average age of bicyclists killed in crashes with motor vehicles continues to increase, climbing to 44 years old in 2013, up from 39 in 2004, 32 in 1998, and 24 in 1988.
83 percent of those killed were male.
68 percent of bicyclist fatalities occurred in urban areas.
22 percent of bicyclist fatalities occurred between 6 and 8:59 p.m.
20 percnet of bicyclists killed had blood alcohol concentrations of 0.08 g/dL or higher.
In 29 percent of the crashes, either the driver or the bicyclist had blood alcohol concentrations of 0.08 g/dL or higher.
California (141), Florida (133), and Texas (48) lead the nation in the number of bicyclist fatalities.
Five states, Nebraska, South Dakota, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming, reported no fatalities in 2013.
Causes of injury

According to the 2012 National Survey on Bicyclist and Pedestrian Attitudes and Behaviors, nearly a third of all injuries are caused when bicyclists are struck by cars.

Six most Frequent Sources of Injury Percent
Hit by car -------------------------- ------ 29
Fell -------------------------------- -------- 17
Roadway/walkway not in good repair ----- 13
Rider error/not paying attention -------- 13
Crashed/collision ----------------------------- 7
Dog ran out ----------------------------------- 4

Although really it could be broken down
Hit by car/vehicle ---- 29%
Fall for other reasons 71%

As for movie/TV folks wanting weird stuff (like an auto with a thumbstud :rolleyes:) never assume a Hollywood writer knows anything about real life. I remember an episode of CASTLE where Beckett and Castle are in a car pushed off a pier. Beckett's seat belt is jammed and Castle asks her if she has a knife. "Yes. It's in the trunk." Like, yeah right. Every cop leaves their knives in the trunk. Even NYC POs aren't that dumb.
 
I may rent this season when it comes out on DVD in my town.

I liked the original TRUE DETECTIVE season one very much.

Do the KNIVES help SAVE people in this show when the victims aka the good guys and good gals use them? Them meaning knives and any other tools that they have on hand.

Do the GOOD people use the KNIVES to stop the bad guys and/or vicious dogs when they do not have a gun or any other tool available?

Do the KNIVES get used by the good people to get them out of dangerous, criminal, spooky and nasty places when they need to escape?

Do the good people use their KNIVES to cut seat belts and/or break glass if they are trapped in their cars?

I like to see knives, guns and any other TOOL used by GOOD PEOPLE to stop the bad people and to help them escape a bad situation.

I like to see movies where the GOOD GUYS and GOOD GALS win in the end!

I LIKE good, old fashioned westerns, some war movies, good mysteries, spy movies, old fashioned comedies and a few old fashioned romance stories.

Old Lady Cate
 
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