TSProf, Wicked Edge, or Work Sharp?

ace said:
How do these compare to edge pro professional?
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I only have the Edge Pro Apex model but it's the same concept as the Pro.
My biggest problem with it was holding the knife blade steady on the table.
I remedied that by purchasing the Edge Pro magnet that affixes underneath the table.
The other thing I don't like about the system is that you have to tape the side of the blade
to keep it from getting scratched. I use my stones wet and all the slurry from sharpening falls
on the table for the knife to slide around on and get scratched. I've found that clear packing tape
works well and lasts for a full session. The suction cups also aren't that good but the Pro version has a
large suction cup on the entire base to help keep the thing steady while sharpening. I don't know how well that works though.
With the Apex I bought the
Clamp Bar from Edge pro that lets you really clamp the thing down on the edge of a work table. Next, the spine
of the blade buts up against a straight piece of metal that doesn't always match the curves of the spine that well.
I purchased the 2 piece support from Edge Pro that is adjustable and holds the blade much steadier on the table.
Finally, there is no way to compensate for stones of different thickness. So I needed to purchase a little drill stop that slides on
the bottom of the vertical arm to allow for compensation.
My Verdict is that the Edge Pros can achieve fantastic results but the learning curve is steep and you need to spend more $ to make them
easier/more convenient to use. I think a clamped system is superior in many ways.
 
Lenny said:
I only have the Edge Pro Apex model but it's the same concept as the Pro.
My biggest problem with it was holding the knife blade steady on the table.
I remedied that by purchasing the Edge Pro magnet that affixes underneath the table.
The other thing I don't like about the system is that you have to tape the side of the blade
to keep it from getting scratched. I use my stones wet and all the slurry from sharpening falls
on the table for the knife to slide around on and get scratched. I've found that clear packing tape
works well and lasts for a full session. The suction cups also aren't that good but the Pro version has a
large suction cup on the entire base to help keep the thing steady while sharpening. I don't know how well that works though.
With the Apex I bought the
Clamp Bar from Edge pro that lets you really clamp the thing down on the edge of a work table. Next, the spine
of the blade buts up against a straight piece of metal that doesn't always match the curves of the spine that well.
I purchased the 2 piece support from Edge Pro that is adjustable and holds the blade much steadier on the table.
Finally, there is no way to compensate for stones of different thickness. So I needed to purchase a little drill stop that slides on
the bottom of the vertical arm to allow for compensation.
My Verdict is that the Edge Pros can achieve fantastic results but the learning curve is steep and you need to spend more $ to make them
easier/more convenient to use. I think a clamped system is superior in many ways.
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Some pictures of the edge pro apex and the edge pro professional.

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The edge pro professional is a different animal.

Larger, more comfortable to use and more stable.

Sounds like you're pretty set on using a clamp system and you also want a serious system.

In that case, don't look at anything other than, the Hapstone RS or something from TSProf like the Kadet or K03.

You won't be happy with anything else.
 
Well, the Hapstone RS comes in at under $300 which is a good price; but it has no stones.
This could be OK if it takes my Edge Pro Shaptons. Can somebody please verify that it does?
Next, does the RS include some sort of compensating system for using stones of different thickness?
Finally, what advantages does the RS actually have over the Work Sharp?
Thanks all
 
Lenny said:
Well, the Hapstone RS comes in at under $300 which is a good price; but it has no stones.
This could be OK if it takes my Edge Pro Shaptons. Can somebody please verify that it does?
Next, does the RS include some sort of compensating system for using stones of different thickness?
Finally, what advantages does the RS actually have over the Work Sharp?
Thanks all
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1. Yes, It takes the edge pro stones.

2. No, it does not come with a stop collar that is an additional add-on for under $10 or comes with the system when you upgrade to the BLACK (premium) version

3. The Hapstone RS Is a professional, high quality rigid system made out of metal, not plastic. You'll find more comfort and enjoyment with the form factor on the RS especially with long periods of use and you'll have the ability to use the extensive library of Edge Pro format stones out of the box.


You should look at using the metallic bonded cBN stones for the best performance.

They are also labeled as the
"Hapstone Premium cBN"

They are more significant more expensive but they will last you a lifetime and you will not be flattening like you are doing with your Shaptons to keep them performing. Also, the metallic bonded cBN stones can be used dry which creates less mess. Lastly, they create a better surface finish at the bevel than what can be achieved with a electroplated diamond abrasive like the worksharp comes with which are disposable when the single layer of diamond wears off and away.


If you purchase the work sharp, I'll be curious if you could update us after a year of how it worked out for you.

Good luck.
 
Another Shepherd said:
No, the Work Sharp Professional Precision Adjust can easily do knives as large as the OP has. It can also do small knives and very low angles because it comes with a magnetic table. And the stones are 1 by 6 inches, the same size as the stones commonly used on TSProf, Hapstone, Edge Pro, Kazak, etc.
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1. What ever you buy be happy with it.
2. The KME was great for pocket knives and not great for larger knives
3. The Work Sharp Pro is a refined and very upgraded KME
4. WS has proprietary 1 x 6 stones (some one will 3d print a work around)

I have $600 USD or more in my KME.
The Work Sharp Pro is much better at 1/2 the cost. (Excellent Value)

The ability to put a great edge on your knife is the only goal.
Lenny said:
I only have the Edge Pro Apex model but it's the same concept as the Pro.
My biggest problem with it was holding the knife blade steady on the table.
I remedied that by purchasing the Edge Pro magnet that affixes underneath the table.
The other thing I don't like about the system is that you have to tape the side of the blade
to keep it from getting scratched. I use my stones wet and all the slurry from sharpening falls
on the table for the knife to slide around on and get scratched. I've found that clear packing tape
works well and lasts for a full session. The suction cups also aren't that good but the Pro version has a
large suction cup on the entire base to help keep the thing steady while sharpening. I don't know how well that works though.
With the Apex I bought the
Clamp Bar from Edge pro that lets you really clamp the thing down on the edge of a work table. Next, the spine
of the blade buts up against a straight piece of metal that doesn't always match the curves of the spine that well.
I purchased the 2 piece support from Edge Pro that is adjustable and holds the blade much steadier on the table.
Finally, there is no way to compensate for stones of different thickness. So I needed to purchase a little drill stop that slides on
the bottom of the vertical arm to allow for compensation.
My Verdict is that the Edge Pros can achieve fantastic results but the learning curve is steep and you need to spend more $ to make them
easier/more convenient to use. I think a clamped system is superior in many ways.
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I agree with what you are saying. My solution to the stone thickness problem is to use stones that are all the same thickness.
Edge Pro Matrix stones are .255 to .240 You can dress them and get them close enough to require no adjustment.
The same is true of the Orion stones from Gritomatic. .255 to .240
I lock in my angle and go to work with the clamp system. (TSPROF)
 
OK all, I'm 99% sure I'm gonna go with the Hapstone RS Black
and use my Edge Pro Shapton stones.
Unless somebody can recommend another better set of stones for a decent price.
 
barkingspider2007 said:
My solution to the stone thickness problem is to use stones that are all the same thickness.
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I agree that it's very convenient to have all the stones with the same thickness.
But if not you can use angle cube.
One set of my diamond stones are 6mm thick (aluminium base) , the other set is close to 8mm thick (plastic base) and my strops are close to 9mm thick (plexi glass base).
When I go for example from 6mm stones to 9mm strops I use angle cube to readjust the angle. It takes a couple of seconds.
So, why stone thickness is a problem?

You can also make all the stones the same thickness with Hasberg precision gauge tapes. You can get all thicknesses you can imagine.
https://www.hasberg-schneider.de/en/services/presision-thickness-gauge-strip-standard-dimensions/
 
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TheOne45 said:
I agree that it's very convenient to have all the stones with the same thickness.
But if not you can use angle cube.
One set of my diamond stones are 6mm thick (aluminium base) , the other set is close to 8mm thick (plastic base) and my strops are close to 9mm thick (plexi glass base).
When I go for example from 6mm stones to 9mm strops I use angle cube to readjust the angle. It takes a couple of seconds.
So, why stone thickness is a problem?

You can also make all the stones the same thickness with Hasberg precision gauge tapes. You can get all thicknesses you can imagine.
https://www.hasberg-schneider.de/en/services/presision-thickness-gauge-strip-standard-dimensions/
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So.. I have the TSPROF K03 and angle cube etc.

We both agree..

It is easy to us stones of any thickness.

I use edge pro blanks for my lapping film.
The blank and film are identical to all other stones.

It is a luxury and easier to keep all the abrasives uniform. .0250 +/-

The other benefit is certainty that the Edge Pro stones are not wearing at all.
This was unexpected, even though they made the claim of little wear after thousands of uses.

$60-$80 USD for a 1 x 6 stone sounds crazy, until you sharpen 400+ knives and see how little wear occurs.

CBN stones definitely wear out.
other types dish etc.

There is no right way to do it.
Have Fun!
Experiment!

I appreciate your comment.
Thank you
 
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