1080+ doesn't come NEAR CruForge V. I know it's easy to look at formulas and say....oh this looks like this so it will behave like it too....and I am super guilty of that. I am the world's worst when it comes to making assumptions!!!!! Look at my post above I thought 1080+ was 80CrV2....wrong answer!!!!! But honestly, it looks like 80CrV2 has quite a bit of variance.....you gotta know exactly what you have (carbon from .45 to 1). 1080+ has only .2 vanadium and only .8 carbon. Cru Forge V has over 1 point of carbon, and .75 vanadium. When there is just .2 vanadium and carbon right at the eutectoid point.....you won't get much in the way of vanadium carbides..that small of vanadium in a .8 carbon is just there to help keep grain small. With .75 vanadium in a hypereutectoid like CruForge V, there is plenty left over carbon and plenty of Vanadium. This translates into a steel that is freaking super difficult to abrade. Abrasion out the wazoo, on a different level than 1080+ or 80CrV2, which are super tough steels.