Turn Off The Red Light

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Guys,
I've asked Spark to turn off the Red Light to my name, and take me off of moderator duties. I'm hoping this gets done before Yangdu has a chance to talk me out of it. Last time I brought it up she said my place was here- but....

I could tell you a million reasons why I'm doing it. I think most of them would be lies. The truth is, there are a number of reasons why I'm doing it, and I can't tell you them right now. Someday there's a wonderful story in there- but not right now.

Maui Rob said in a current thread for us to leave our baggage behind. To give each other the benefit of the doubt.

At the start of this year with only a very very small number of forumites, like one or two, I lost the benefit of a doubt. Think about this, people understand my humor because you know me- slightly derranged munk. Imagine now that you think of me as morally bankrupt. Every word I say, every post, the same posts that used to make you laugh or think, now become evidence of my corruption. Yet the only the thing that has changed is your attitude. I could go through the forum now, listing each of you with a kind stereotype- you know, Howard as engineer wonk, Bruisee as silly, Semper as gruff and to the point; good things. Take the humanity away, and we are nothing.

Most of you, the majority of you, keep the faith with each other. Don't ever stop that. Keep talking to one another- beat the damn odds of humankind- the constant force leading to anger, misunderstanding, apathy. And we've done this here, whether some of you can recognize a miracle or not, it is here.

The best place on the web.

I'm sorry I'm stepping down. I wasn't done. There was some work I wanted to do. I learned this last year never quit. Fight. Don't let them win. Persevere. I did. But the dream I had of stewarding this place, of selling khuks and writing books, is not to be.

I've been talking to Howard a little behind the scenes. Oh, I know, some of you only saw the 'squabbling'. I think Howard and I must be diametrically opposed on everything. He told me recently I was either going to be a great mod, or a terrible one, and he couldnt tell which. Damn- and I wanted to see the story to the end also. But I did do this; we got through the hard year past the deaths of our dearest friends.

I'm not going to go down a list of misunderstandings, but there is a point I want to say one more time about squabbling or what some called the 'pigpile'; those unseemly threads where we let off steam, like about another khuk company that one time, and a person who insulted Yangdu, etc etc. I would always err on the side of letting anger and hard feelings get out. I did not see this as the sky falling, or a loss of face, or even poor manners. When such threads threatened to turn only to ugliness, I shut them down. But in the majority of cases, good things came. Friendship came. We need to have enough faith in ourselves, give each enough rope, perhaps even make a jerk of ourselves- or to risk it- to get to the good stuff. You can trust adults to do this, you set limits on children.

To my two detractors- When you see Rusty- and learn you goofed, I thought of the perfect excuse for you; tell him you were wrong about munk, but that you never talked to munk and heard the other side of the story. That's a real original line, and I'm sure it'll go over well.

I'm not quitting for the jeerers. I'm leaving this position for my self.

It was a great time. I sure had to grow up, and it wasnt fun all the time, but I wouldnt change a thing about it.

I don't know what's 'supposed' to happen now. I thought of an idea; do you think it might be good to talk to Yangdu and figure out a way to appoint a revolving moderatorship- a sort of tour of duty, and let many of you have a turn? We have enough you know, more than enough good guys to do this.

So, begin the countdown; that red light is gonna go off at any time. Last chance for bribes, so keep 'em coming.

your very very honored to be here friend,
munk
 
I'm sorry to see you go as moderator, but as your friend I'm also happy for you in some ways. Sad in others. If you left the forum that would be different--no upside to that one.

I hope this frees up your heart and that you post just as much, but with a lighter load on your shoulders.

I for one think you will be remembered as an outstanding mod. and a man with a big heart.

You have many friends here mod or not.

your very very honored to be here friend,

We are honored to be in your company as well friend.

Rob
 
Munk
Thanks for giving your time, good humour and experience to this forum. For my part. i truely appreciate it.
As you say, all families have their disagreements - wouldn't be a family otherwise !
All the best.
Rich
 
Since I cannot talk you out of it.... best wishes and thanks.

There, some completly inadequate words that will just have to do, I guess.

Sorry.



Mike :mad: :thumbdn: and a couple of stupid emoticons to go with the completly inadequate words.
 
I'm sorry to see it come to this, but I was afraid things were headed this way. I for one will miss your guidance. I hope you will not cut back on the number of your posts. You'll never understand how much I enjoy reading your stories.

Best Wishes,

Ted W.
 
I don't think we need a poll. Munk has made his decision, and I don't think he made this post to get folks to talk him out of it.

Munk, thank you for your service. You, Howard and Yvsa stepped up when the forum needed it.

Steve Ferguson
 
Munk, thank you for your sevice and dedication. May you find peace and contentment.

Dick
 
I don't think he made this post to get folks to talk him out of it.

Thanks Steve I wanted to say that very thing, but as usual you said it better.
 
Oh oh- guys, things were not headed this way-

Don't think that for a second. Of all the things I learned this last year, it was you must keep standing even if you have detractors, or 'unfair' life circumstances. Think about this- what a kid I was a year ago-when I thought I could win almost everyone, nor have any misunderstanding. Life is chock full of unfair, unjust misunderstandings. I'm not mad or hurt- this last month has been wonderful for me personally. I learned to stand up. I wouldn't have life any other way now.

Don't even give that a thought. This forum has turned the corner. You may not know it yet, some of you, but it has. I wouldn't let a couple tough knocks dictate a decision of this importance. Trust me on this. Some day I will tell you a wonderful story- just not now.
Stand up guys are not those who just happen to be popular. It's easy to stand then.
This place is great.

munk
 
You have done good here Munk. Follow your heart and do what you feel is best. Personally I felt you have done a great job. I can only imagine the patience it takes to deal with all of the problems that can arise with strong feelings and personalities at odds. Keep the faith and please stay a strong voice in the Cantina. Even if not a Mod. you are a respected shepard in the fold.
Let your heart be at peace, you have done well. Time to rest and enjoy the ride!:)
 
ArchAngel; A couple times this year I scanned down a thread of names and found you standing there with the forum and me, and it touched me deeply, as it does now.


munk
 
If this is what you feel is right, then for you, it must be right.


Don't disappear, I want to hear the rest of the story...
 
I didn't really understand when Howard and Yvsa stepped down, and I don't really understand this either. But, I don't have to fully understand in order to respect that all three of you have your reasons, and not try to second guess your choices.

I've been on enough long deployments to see how little things can gnaw at people, and given time, turn into big problems. So, I know better than to say, "everybody get a grip and we'll all get over it". Don't happen that way. Given time, you can tear a castle down, one stone at a time. Ain't no magic wand that can be waved to put it back together, one stone at a time is the only way. Tear it down, put it together, the key to either one is how badly do you want to? What's it "worth" to you? Something none of us can decide for the other, we each have to make up our own minds.

Sarge
 
I think Sarge has said it very well. This place is great, and Munk, you have helped it along. That is all we can have asked and MUCH more. I don't know what else to say on this.

THANK YOU MUNK.
 
This came as a surprise to me too...but trust that munk made the best decision for himself.
 
munk said:
ArchAngel; A couple times this year I scanned down a thread of names and found you standing there with the forum and me, and it touched me deeply, as it does now.


munk
I feel the same Munk. Think of me as the brother that has your back when you need it. The rest of the time I sort of like to dissapear. I am sort of a quiet guy most of the time.:o
 
Glad you'll still be around to give us your wonderful posts. A mod status doesn't make the man.....

You'll still be a giant in my eyes.
 
Munk, in my opinion, you were one of the best mods we have had. Having come on the scene around the same time that you did, I have seen you grow as a person and a valued member of the forum. I hate to see you step down. You mods have a hard job, and you did a damn fine job. Thank you. Thank you for being a tug at the bootstaps of the Cantina. You, Howard, and Yvsa really pulled up our spirits in one of the most trying times for HI. Nasty and Yangdu will continue on. I respect your decision and appreciate all that you have given. Munk the Mod, Munk the Forumite, Munk the Writer...all of these men I am very glad to know and count as a friend.

Jake
 
I thought that you did an excellent job Munk. I'm sorry to see you step down.
Hail,fellow well met!
 
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