Two camillus knives? What do you think?

They're both spey blades, and both stockman knives. One spey seems a bit narrower & pointier than the other, but the slight 'clip' near the tip distinguishes it from a pen blade, of which the spine gently curves more-or-less in mirror to the edge's curve, to the tip. A pen blade is essentially like a spear blade, but smaller.

To my knowledge, whittlers usually put the two smaller blades at the end opposite the main clip blade, whereas most stockman knives have one of the secondary blades (usually sheepfoot) alongside the clip blade (pivots from the same end as the clip).
 
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thawk said:
I would be surprised if it were a pen blade in the end, but Duncan could you display the two spey blades? Could lend itself to more comparisons. The swedge on the top knife's clip blade indicates Camillus for sure, but both of the handle frames have the same Schrade serpentine curve. If someone suggested a collaboration of parts by a company that had a common owner, I would tend to believe that could be the case.
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Hi Hal, please see photo number 1...these are the two pen/spey blades, would you like to see them in an open ( fully ) position? please let me know and I will take a snap for you.
Duncan.
 
Of course, no that one I just overlooked. Clearly both spey blades. The top one does have a narrower profile. I'd have to look through some pics to pass judgment. I do know that Schrade made more production knives with this frame style than Camillus, but Camillus might have done did more work for other companies.
 
Hal..thank you for looking into this, I will take some more pics very soon, this may be a couple of days till I get to do this though..I hope this is ok?
 
I think so Duncan... it's not a life and death situation. :D

Honestly, these type of questions come up regularly over in the Schrade forum, and more times than not, this is about as far as it gets. Every time someone comes up with a similar comparison to a knife, there arises another example that provokes another question. The fact of the matter is, Schrade, Camillus, and Ulster all made Craftsman knives during a span of time when Albert Baer had his fingers in the pie of all three companies. And you can throw in Imperials too. Many hybrid examples exist with no clear cut explanation. Especially examples with no etch, and no shield. These companies made hundreds of thousands of knives with these same blades and frames over the course of several decades. There were lots of left over parts, and they did not all go to waste. None of the companies are left, but the remaining left over parts were all auctioned off in bankruptcy sales. In fact, many parts are still being assembled and sold on Ebay to this day.
 
And it's what i said back in post #9. All of us Schrade forum regulars know of this sharing of parts between the various Albert Baer owned companies.
Another example are the "Schrade-Wostenholm" knives of 1980-81. They are not Schrade at all. The knives were made by Camillus, then sent over to Britain for hafting (putting on handle material), then returned to Schrade for marketing & selling.
roland
 
Thank you so much guys for the Fantastic information, its great knowing a lot more about these knives!
 
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