Two Fox Folly's arrived - prepaid list only

Daniel Koster

Daniel Koster

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These are perfect - just as ordered.

The first two on the prepaid list to contact ME with their real name and city/state (to verify) will get one.

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Hey Dan,

Working late pays off for once! Please put my name down for one of these guys. Glad to see they finally got it right!

I prepaid for two and took one of the 21” 28 oz. prototypes a few months ago, so still have one paid up and should be good to go.

Thanks much.

Norm

I'll send you my contact info ASAP.

Tnx.
 
Look at them things...whoa.

Seeing as how I snagged one of the "warmup" Follies, I'll wait till everyone else has theirs before asking for mine.
 
waiting for an email....sorry, have to be fair....hurry up....make this easy for me....
 
ok - both gone.

Congrats, guys. These are looking very nice.

They are both 17 inches and exactly 24 ounces. Metal traditional bolster and beautiful wood.
 
Great, even if there is a little cho creep. Dan is the furniture steel or white metal?
Dayum but I hope it is steel! With these close enough maybe the rest won't be too far behind.;)

Edit:
What is the dark wood on the right one? Looks almost like Ebony doesn't it.:cool:
 
You're right Yvsa, there is a little cho creep, but it is way better than my checkerboard YCS which was a special order, and the bolster looks good. I hope it is steel as well. I'd say they are about 99% of what you asked for. The cho of course would have made them perfect...

Tell me, is the cho creep less than this on the 17" 28-30 oz. prototype you got? If Yangdu gives the OK on these models, which I think she will, then I think we can expect the Kami FF mill to go into high gear and every other FF to be copies of these two, except that I would not be surprised to see some with white satisal or antler or other cool stuff. I thought about waiting for one of those to see what comes, but frankly don't want to take a chance! These look really good to me.

On my work monitor, which is actually a damned fine high res unit, both of these look like red chandan that has just been highly polished. The kardas and chakmas are also highly polished, and match the size of the knife well, but I was hoping they might be a bit larger. But, my job is to find flaws in things, and I'm a picky SOB. I think they are excellent efforts overall.

Well, 14 hours is enough for me today! I'm toddling off to home.

Regards,

Norm
 
Beautiful! As much as I like the idea of a white saatisal or antler or neem FF, I prefer a chandan handle to match my FFF in this case. :)
 
Svashtar said:
You're right Yvsa, there is a little cho creep, but it is way better than my checkerboard YCS which was a special order, and the bolster looks good. I hope it is steel as well. I'd say they are about 99% of what you asked for. The cho of course would have made them perfect...

Tell me, is the cho creep less than this on the 17" 28-30 oz. prototype you got?
Regards,

Norm
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Norm there is no cho creep on the prototype. They came in *Absolutely Perfect* except for the weight.
The cho on my prototype is about 9/16" from the bottom of the bolster!:cool:
If at all possible and the rest come in with this same amount of cho creep I may rework the one on mine like I did the one on my full size Foxy Folly. A properly placed cho on these would give the appearance of a longer blade.
And who knows, you can't second guess the kamis and the rest may come in with properly placed chos along with everything else being perfect.:rolleyes: One can hope!

I'm hoping that the scabbards on these all fit like Satori says the one he got fits. A properly fitted scabbard would go a long ways in helping me overlook other defects if any.;)
 
Yvsa said:
Norm there is no cho creep on the prototype. They came in *Absolutely Perfect* except for the weight.
The cho on my prototype is about 9/16" from the bottom of the bolster!:cool:
If at all possible and the rest come in with this same amount of cho creep I may rework the one on mine like I did the one on my full size Foxy Folly. A properly placed cho on these would give the appearance of a longer blade.
And who knows, you can't second guess the kamis and the rest may come in with properly placed chos along with everything else being perfect.:rolleyes: One can hope!

I'm hoping that the scabbards on these all fit like Satori says the one he got fits. A properly fitted scabbard would go a long ways in helping me overlook other defects if any.;)
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Yvsa, that is a bit of a shame then, but I guess we should be happy they got the length/weight correct. But how would you rework a cho anyway? That one has me beat...

Also, noticed that the cho creep is slightly less on the brass handled ones like Satori snagged and tested, but the habaki bolster on those masks that a little bit so I think the actual chos were cut in the same place on both sets.

Tnx.

Norm
 
Svashtar said:
But how would you rework a cho anyway? That one has me beat...

Norm
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Norm if it's a small cho it can just simply be made bigger which is what I did on the original. There might be enough size to the 17" FF to be able to do the same thing, but if not I'll have mine welded up and then re-cut it myself.
I'm just hopeful of getting one I don't have to do anything too except for putting a satin finish on the blade and bluing it and maybe working on the handle a bit.
With the old Shop 2 handles I never had to rework a handle but I've had to rework a few since BirGhorka came into being.
It's not only that my hand is somewhat smaller than some of you guys but I need a smaller handle to help account for the arthritis in my hands.
I still have a pretty good grip but it ain't like it used to be.
Howard could probably beat me in the little contest we once had now.;)
 
Thanks Yvsa. I'm curious about this; when you say 9/16 from ther bolster, is that to the bottom of the start of the cho?

I would hope that welding up the old cho wouldn't heat up the blade too much, but it sounds like a great way to make the knife perfect for you.

I wish the kami's had paid attention to this one detail though, but I think they were so beat up and confused by all the prototypes that they just concentrated on getting the length and weight correct this time around.

I'm eyeballing these two and guessing that the cho's start about an inch out from the bolster.

They look pretty small though. What do you think? I think I could cut another semi-circle the same distance down towards the bolster, and leave a peice for the middle tine. In looking at it yourself, do you think that cho would be too large?

Thanks,

Norm
 
Interesting.

On my "warmup" Folly, the cho appears to be about 1" from where the bolster would end if it were traditional and .75" as it is now. I grabbed a few other khuks off the workbench that were near it for a quick comparison:

17.5" WWII villager: the same.
16.5" chiruwa AK: 1.25" to the "crease" of the bolster, .75" to the top.
15" BGRS villager: the same as the FF.
17" M43: about .75" to the crease, .5" to the top.
Jange: 1" to the bolster. (Traditional bolster.)

Now I'm going to have to go through the entire collection and document it. Thanks, Norm. :) I'll try to get it done this weekend. Perhaps this is the making of a new thread? Model, maker, bolster style, handle style, and distance from the cho to point "A" (the edge of the bolster, regardless of style) and point "B" (if habaki) and "era" of manufacture ought to cover the specifics. If enough people participate it might be statistically meaningful.

FWIW, while I like the look of less cho creep and a non-habaki bolster more, I'm thoroughly unconvinced that it has any effect on performance. Looks are nice, but most of my users are anything but pretty. :) It doesn't keep them from doing their jobs, thereby proving a theory of mine: you don't have to look cool to be cool. ;)

For our two lucky forumites who have FF's on the way: we'll be expecting a full review and hopefully some pics, of course. (Bonus points for an etch.) Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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