Tyrade lock failure

I can`t understand what is wrong with people. I understand what you did and why you did it . I agree with you that you did abuse the knife and I believe (like I think you do) that the lock should not have failed ,maybe it should have hurried the lock along to its early demise but to fail outright is not ok in my book .I think maybe it was a bad lock in the first place and maybe you are lucky it didn`t fail during use lesson learned in a few ways I guess .Ignore the rude and ignorant they should be used to it by now.
 
If you dropped it from a foot without much force and it broke the lock, that doesn't sound right. In other words it must have been defective. Otoh if you threw it with great force I could see it breaking. Contact Kershaw they have great warranty and customer service.
 
Maybe out of place. But I threw many folders into trees. Most were liner locks, and the only one that eventually didn't fail and still performs flawlessly today is my Spyderco Military. But even relatively weak liners like on the BM LFK, failed only after multiple HARD throws.

But throwing folders is WRONG!
 
Clearly since your knife fails spine whacks,it needs to be sent in for repair.From what I remember Kershaw knives does lightly spine whack all their folder prior to leaving the factory. I personally do not consider a light one foot throw into a wood picnic table, abuse but a heavy five foot throw into a fence is. Kind of like one of Cold Steel videos where they're throwing their folding blade knives as hard as possible into a wooden fence.
 
The main advantage of a frame-lock over a liner-lock, is that you hand comes in direct contact with the lock bar so when you squeeze the knife, the lock bar is held in place. This is not the the case if the knife is not in your hand flying across the room. In other words a frame-lock still probably won't fail if it is in your hand where it belongs.
 
Don't throw your knife away, as everyone has said, it can be fixed.

Also to those who hate/dislike liner/framelocks, what if it was a custom made liner/frame lock knife. A lot of the guys who dislike liner and/or framelocks seem to have had bad experience with production knives, so would you guys still try a custom frame or liner lock? Surely these knives, being custom would have tighter tolerances, and maybe thicker locks?
 
It's either a defect or there's more to the story. I as just ca
Ping with my g10 tyrade doing so
Ething similar into chopped firewood and the lock never failed, this is an extremely durable lock.
 
Noumenon: what don't you believe? Everything was clear and sounds reasonable. I don't see what you are having issues with?

I don't care who made the liner or frame lock I do not like them. It can be custom or production I still think it is a poor design that is only popular because it is quick and easy to make.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
Noumenon: what don't you believe? Everything was clear and sounds reasonable. I don't see what you are having issues with?

I don't care who made the liner or frame lock I do not like them. It can be custom or production I still think it is a poor design that is only popular because it is quick and easy to make.
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I don't believe the story no matter how well it is written. Every time one is made it gets people riled up. Almost every time the OP doesn't go to the manufacturer first to get it fixed. Many times threads like these are created for trolling purposes. I've been using the internet too long to bite and I call it like I see it. ;)
 
Shouldn't be so hard on the guy. What he did was not that bad. I expect the Tyrade's lock to be able to handle a small throw. Just to check, I threw a ZT300 I had into a wooden chair. Would not stick but the lock held fine. I did it lightly and not like if my life depended on it.

Sometimes for framelocks or linerlocks the contact surface is machined too angled. That is not too secure.

PS: I know Kershaw makes the ZT300 and Tyrade. Same company does not mean same lock contact surface design...
 
Cotherion said:
Shouldn't be so hard on the guy. What he did was not that bad. I expect the Tyrade's lock to be able to handle a small throw. Just to check, I threw a ZT300 I had into a wooden chair. Would not stick but the lock held fine. I did it lightly and not like if my life depended on it.

Sometimes for framelocks or linerlocks the contact surface is machined too angled. That is not too secure.

PS: I know Kershaw makes the ZT300 and Tyrade. Same company does not mean same lock contact surface design...
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I'm sure the ZT is a little beefier, but if you feel like you want to throw that ZT300 away I'll take it! :D
 
If I'm throwing it away I will definately give you a shout :)

But me loves my ZT300 and it's so well built, it'll be a lifetime before it's retired.
 
jackdaripper said:
i also have NO TRUST WHATSOEVER IN LINER/FRAMELOCKS they have just failed too many times on me (even high end liner locks and Ti framelocks). i'll just stick to lockbacks and AXIS locks from now on.
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And I've seen both of those fail as well...

Just send it in to Kershaw for them to roughen up the mating surfaces between the lock face/tang. They have the best warranty in the business.

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Sad that you are throwing away a knife that just needs to be tuned slightly. :(
 
Noumenon said:
I don't believe the story no matter how well it is written. Every time one is made it gets people riled up. Almost every time the OP doesn't go to the manufacturer first to get it fixed. Many times threads like these are created for trolling purposes. I've been using the internet too long to bite and I call it like I see it. ;)
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So anyone who comes here and posts a thread about a problem with a knife is trolling? What exactly sounds like trolling to you? Sounds like something happened to his knife and wanted to get other people's opinion and see if it might be a common problem. Besides getting lectured on sticking a knife into a wood table from a foot away, he also found someone who has similar problems in multiples of the same model knife. He uses his real name, has been a member here for 5 years and doesn't post that much. This nor any of his other posts sound like trolling to me. Actually, your posts in this thread sound more like trolling with the intent to get people 'worked' up. You are not contributing to the thread at all. I believe exactly what he said happened because I have had frame/ liner locks fail with just hand pressure on the back of the blade. I don't buy cheap knives and have had it happen on multiple knives from highly liked companies that cost $30 and up. I guess because I have experienced problems I am trolling as well. :rolleyes:
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
So anyone who comes here and posts a thread about a problem with a knife is trolling? What exactly sounds like trolling to you? Sounds like something happened to his knife and wanted to get other people's opinion and see if it might be a common problem. Besides getting lectured on sticking a knife into a wood table from a foot away, he also found someone who has similar problems in multiples of the same model knife. He uses his real name, has been a member here for 5 years and doesn't post that much. This nor any of his other posts sound like trolling to me. Actually, your posts in this thread sound more like trolling with the intent to get people 'worked' up. You are not contributing to the thread at all. I believe exactly what he said happened because I have had frame/ liner locks fail with just hand pressure on the back of the blade. I don't buy cheap knives and have had it happen on multiple knives from highly liked companies that cost $30 and up. I guess because I have experienced problems I am trolling as well. :rolleyes:
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Doesn't sound like trolling to me. I just don't see why he didn't take my advice and contact Kershaw. There is no reason that lock should have been caused to fail by doing what he described. Was it "abuse"? Sure, in the strict sense of the word, but not enough to expect a titanium lock to break. I'm sure Kershaw would have seen it the same way.

Instead he throws it away? It's his money, but that doesn't make any sense. :confused:
 
-Ranger- said:
There is no reason that lock should have been caused to fail by doing what he described.
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I am approximately 100% sure what he did didn't do anything to the lock. It had the issue before it was thrown, and any throwing as described would not cause any damage.
 
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