UFO update - something is going on in China

E.T.'s? Wow, if they do exist and they are superior to us then what the heck would they want with us? We kill each other over racial, religious, geographical differences, for personal gain, and simply for the fun of it. We destroy our own environment and ourselves in the pursuit of fun. Oh yea, and whenever some one comes along and tries to show us a better way (Jesus, Checvara, Gandi, Lincoln, and the one guy that "had a dream") WE KILL THEM! Or maybe they are stupid and think they can civilize us, and tame us down like all those idiots who own wolves or tigers and think they are safe till about five seconds before they get mauled to death. If that's the case then we got a lot of free technology coming our way.:)
But in all seriousness......I wonder what kind of booze they got, If space weed is better, and can my BUSSE destroy a alien coffee table as fast as an earth one?
 
The major problem with space travel is first off we are not able to travel near the distance (many light years) in any practical amount of time. The acceleration force to speeds well below light in well above any practical amount of time would be enough to pulverize our body into chunky salsa before that speed is reached.
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There are two kinds of acceleration. Your quote only addresses one of them. From what I have found out, we moved past those limitations in the early 70's.
 
Okay if you try to instantly (instant acceleration) accelerate you'll became taco salsa. If you gradually accelerate (average acceleration) your old and dusty spacecraft along with your skeletal remains may become some cultures museum antique exhibit on early attempts at space travel. I think that addresses both.

A pitiful pathetic 6 gs to reach some pitiful pathetic teeny teeny tiny tiny speed in the mach (speed of sound) range will black most people out in a couple of seconds. To reach speeds required for long distance (intergalactic) space travel, I would say only in ones head, they would only succeed in pulverizing their body down to the molecular level (a huge steam roller would leave quite a bit more remains) so unless there is some quite extraordinary idea that the entire human race missed. I doubt it.

Time to think differently (then again I wonder if this is wise at this time period?) and think differently they have. Will it be done or have they done it?
 
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Greater, there are two kinds of acceleration known to us. (Actual scientists, feel free to correct me here) Both of your examples are relative acceleration.

Relative Acceleration - molecules push on each other in "relative" motion. in a car, the tires push the ground, the seat pushes your back, your back pushes your front, etc..

Uniform acceleration - all molecules move together at the same time, such as gravity and inertia but possible also "waveform" acceleration.
 
I'm not a scientist, but in my physics classes we were taught uniform acceleration is the result of a uniform, unbalanced force. You might be thinking of "proper acceleration", which I only understand to be the acceleration of a body relative a frame of reference rather than the more traditional coordinate system.

I've not heard of waveform acceleration, and my Google results are a little sketchy. It sounds interesting though if you could provide a link to an explanation.
 
I don't use the internet for my studies if I can help it. Waveform acceleration is the term I heard used to explain saucer movement. It says that the whole ship, not just the frame, but the occupant, everything inside it, all become part of a standing wave and it is the wave that moves. It's actually a little beyond my ability to explain at the moment.
 
:cool: Nuclear physicist and UFO researcher Stanton Friedman neatly covers motion/acceleration questions in his writing.

Can't plug the book here, but here's the guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanton_T._Friedman

"Friedman was employed for 14 years as a nuclear physicist for such companies as General Electric, General Motors, Westinghouse, TRW Systems, Aerojet General Nucleonics, and McDonnell Douglas where he worked on advanced, classified programs on nuclear aircraft, fission and fusion rockets, and compact nuclear power plants for space applications."

Personally I agree with a lot of his conclusions, i.e. ETH.


Mike
 
I think if they are really up there that they'll kick our sorry behinds back to earth rather than let us come out there corrupting the milky way and polluting it like we have done here. For all I know that is exactly what is going on on Mars with all the failed attempts to land probes there off and on. I don't believe its likely that any advanced alien federation is going to be interested in adopting an unpredictable immature primitive species into their federation when that species can't even get along with those of their own kind on their own planet. No, until that species has advanced sufficiently to merit such an adoption I don't see the aliens being much interested in even meeting us or taking us seriously on any type of 'equal' standing. At this point from their perspective, we're nothing more than an interesting species that may as well be an ant farm colony being observed and sometimes studied closely to try to understand them better.


STR
 
no, was in saudi at the time of those incidents.

'to serve man' was 1962 (linky). was in high school in long island for the time of that episode...my favourite and most memorable 'twilight zone'.
 
Assuming that there are aliens. Why is it that we assume they won't have social problems, crime, injustices? I think that a good possible analogy is us as Native Americans and the Aliens as the Europeans. More technologically advanced, but with plenty of their own problems.

Really really interesting stuff going on here. Thanks for posting it. I would not have heard about it otherwise.
 
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