Ultralight or Survival Kit?

In my experience all internet forums breed groupthink and a materialistic gear focused approach.

Just last night I was reading the latest flashlight thread, and a few minutes later found myself pricing new ones. Then i realized...I have satisfactory flashlights, maybe they aren't the best, but they're good and do everything I want them to do. My life isn't going to be better if I find one that does 20 more lumens or 15 minutes more battery life.
I did that for awhile. But at a certain point I realized I simply had enough. I had enough flashlights to equip myself, my fiance, my car, my parents, and one for every room of my small apartment. I could no longer justify spending money on them.

Same thing happened with knives. When I got to about 8 folders, I realized that there was no more niche left for me to fill. Since then, I've only bought one knife... and it was a Landi fixed blade which filled the last niche I had left - the small/medium fixed blade for hiking.

Actually, for the past few months, I've slowly weened myself off much of the gear I used to carry around with me every day. Some due to legal concerns, but mostly, beause I carried around too much crap. Nowadays, I only EDC a Leatherman Juice tool, and a Fenix LD01 AAA light. And thus far, I haven't felt lacking in gear.
 
Hi Fonly. I used the term Survival in the recreational pursuit sense, which is what it is becoming. Some even call it survivaling, others bushcraft. Regardless, it's going out into the bush and playing with knives.

But thats not survival.

I see it one way I'm afraid, you can practice survival skills while camping, or what have you, but I don't see it as its own style of spending time in the woods.

Not many go out into the woods on a survival trip. You go out and practice those survival skills one a small scale, through making traps, shelters, fires things of that nature. Not many people I know go out fall off a slope and break a leg for a survival trip if you get my drift.
 
But thats not survival.

I see it one way I'm afraid, you can practice survival skills while camping, or what have you, but I don't see it as its own style of spending time in the woods.

Not many go out into the woods on a survival trip. You go out and practice those survival skills one a small scale, through making traps, shelters, fires things of that nature. Not many people I know go out fall off a slope and break a leg for a survival trip if you get my drift.

Of course it's not real survival. But as I said twice, it's the term that has been adopted to describe an outdoor pursuit. Let's differentiate the two as Survival and survival if you like :)
 
Aside from Baldtaco's rant about folks - come now Mor's ain't no saint, but his books are respected - there are a few things that I agree in its premise.

First - the ultralighters, the bushcrafters, the hunters, the fishermen, the car campers, the overloaded base campers - they are all folks who have come to the wilds to enjoy it. The biggest difference is the type of activities they expect to engage in while out there.

Since all these folks enjoy different kinds of things, then it makes a whole lot of sense that they select different types of gear. Anyone in any of these categories has the fair right to snub their nose at overcomfident newbs trying to do what they are doing but with insufficient equipment or knowledge. Starting to look down their nose at other groups who may be equally experienced as them but have different gear choices suited to a different activity goal is rather silly.

Its not too uncommon on this forum for folks to claim that hiking without a gun is a silly thing to do. Except for when I'm hunting, I have never hiked with a gun. The circumstances under which I've hiked without a firearm were such that a firearm is not necessary so it seems like a silly thing to do. Mind you, if my intent of getting out there was to go plinking then bringing a gun suddenly becomes a pretty good piece of kit to have.

By the same token, I tend to lug a two pound SLR camera with me and even drag around a little tripod at times. Lots of people can think I have a screw loose for doing so since I could have a ultra-slim pocket camera to take pictures. Yeah, they take pictures, but doing that is not the kind of photography that appeals to me and I do what I do.

Similarly on BT's rant. Some folks really just like to travel far, fast and light. They get a high from distances traveled and true they may not appreciate the springs, lakes and trees they cross. They certainly aren't going to fall into a crouch and crawl from tree to tree trying to get 100' closer to a deer - taking 25 minutes to do so. They are going to scramble up steeper rock ledges and look for short cuts.

I'm not even really sure that the basic equipment needs have as many similarities as what people suggest. True there are common human needs: shelter, water, fire, food, navigation, communication etc but there are also many, many approaches in gear choices to satisfy those needs. Some only require foraging the natural environment while some might take as an etiquette the latter activity as depleting natures resources.

For myself, I know personally that I take too much stuff. Part of it is the survivalist mindset, but also part of it is that survival gear is kind of my little play schtick. I mean, I know I'm kind of a weirdo because when I walk into an outdoor store with a group of guys - they all head off to the coats/clothing/tent sections and I head off to that little aisle with all the camping gidgets where the emergency blankets, firestarters, compasses are. They see that aisle as the equivalent of dollar store crap and I think it is a treasure trove of toys. That and I always have at least 3 knives in my pack where ever I go....

So to each his own I say. As long as you enjoy the outdoors, respect nature, don't begrudge paying park fees, don't poach, don't pollute, and allow other fellow outdoor enthusiasts their space and privacy to enjoy the same environment - you are fine by me!

AMEN. We all need to stick together. We have much more in COMMON than we have DIFFERENCES. As long as we can all respect each other and the land, we all have the same ultimate goal - to have a place to "do our thing". Should be simple, but unfortunately we often make it too complicated. Peace. Out. Fred
 
I have 3 modes, ultralight day trip, extended back pack and pickup truck full of camping gear. The one I choose to use depends on what, when and where I am going, nothing more.
Get out and enjoy it

Oh, and don't throw rocks t the other guys, it ain't nice
One of the few things my momma told me that stuck, "If you don't have something nice to say, STFU"

Me too...
 
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