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Umnumzaan or large Insingo?

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Just trying to decide which one to shell out for. It would be for edc. Which one has a more robust tip? I know the Umnum's blade stock is a bit thicker, but i have read the Insingo has a fairly stout tip. Gotta say i'm leaning toward the Umnum and i've wanted one for a while now...hoping to hear from both camps here. I just want the beefier folder which ever it may be. (Yes i know they are both well made and tough). Thanks.:)
 
The Insingo does have a noticeably thicker tip, though I wouldn't call it stout.
 
The Insingo will be the better slicer (apples, paper, general food prep, cleaning fish, whittiling sticks, cardboard, razoring)
The Umnumzaan will be better at tougher task, [even though I still do alot of food prep] (light bush craft, thick rope, thick rubber, and many other things a small fixed blade can do.)
On a camping trip, I'd like the insingo for chopping onions and the Umnumzaan for making the fire. Tough call honestly.
 
Thanks guys! It looks like an Umnum will be in the works. Anybody got comparison pics sittin' around they want to post of the tips, blade thickness, etc?
No biggie either way. Any info is always appreciated.
 
For a thicker tip and for your intended uses...Zaan.

I prefer the Sebs though...so Insingo should remain on your list! lol
 
I would personally go for the Umnumzaan over any Sebenza other than the Regular. As for the Insingo the blade shape is indeed a pretty one but I have never understood the roaring and shouting of people regarding the sheepsfoot or wharncliff blade shape. I find it's absolutly no better than any other bladeshape at anything and is infact worse for some things. I do think they look good but they are found lacking in my experience when it comes to actually using them, especially on a knife one would consider "multifunctional".
 
If you can get yourself a True North Knives tanto 21, you'll be getting the CRK folder with the most stout tip offered. I've had the Umnums, Insingos and the TNK tanto and it's much more stout than anything else offered. Just a thought if absolute tip strength is high on your list of priorities.
 
ZippoThisKnifeThat said:
For a thicker tip and for your intended uses...Zaan.

I prefer the Sebs though...so Insingo should remain on your list! lol
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It could be the swedge on my Insingo is ground different than yours, but on mine, the first 3/4" of the tip of the Insingo is thicker than the first 3/4" of my Um's. At 3/4" they're even, and past that, the Um is thicker, as it has thicker stock--but at the tip, my Insingo is thicker.
 
Hmmm, thanks kreole...The plot thickens...Not to start any trouble, but the general consensus still seems the Umnum is still all around tougher if not quite as thick at the point?
 
PoundHound said:
Hmmm, thanks kreole...The plot thickens...Not to start any trouble, but the general consensus still seems the Umnum is still all around tougher if not quite as thick at the point?
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It's definitely tougher otherwise--with thicker blade stock (.125" vs. .14"), thicker ti slabs, and a much larger pivot
 
I have a large Insingo on the way now. I'll take some picture of it and my 'zaan if no one beats me to it.
 
I was making the same decision as the OP a while ago. I ultimately went with the Large Insingo. What swayed me in the end is the much easier takedown, cleaning and reassembling process of the Insingo over the Umnum. I don't like playing around with loctite and other measures, and as somebody who gets his knives dirty that aspect was important to me. I find the easier it is to clean a knife the more work it sees especially if being used for food prep like pork and chicken.

Just giving you one more thing to consider. Hope this helped.

Greg
 
I'm not quite in agreement with this...I have never used loc-tite on my Umnumzaan and have never had any problems. The pivot has a long thread so there is really no way one can lose any of the parts and it can be tightened by hand, well, thumb quite easily. There are less parts to the Umnumzaan and it's actually much easier to take apart IMO. The take down tool is the only issue but I have one of Bhydes tools on my keys so I can easily dismantle the knife anywhere. In fact if you don't use loc-tite you can probably take the pivot out with just thumb pressure and then you only need the hex key that you would still need for the Sebenza any way.

To give an example, I was at a restaurant with some friends and the topic of the ceramic ball for the lock face came up. I was able to just take the knife apart at the table and let the person have a look. The single screw with spacer and the pivot are all there is to the Umnumzaan. The Sebenza has 3 screws as well as the bushing, stop pin sleeve, and spacer.....that's a few more thing to roll off the table. :p

As for the percieved tip strength issue I don't see the problem. Anything that would actually break one knife will probably break the other as well. The tip on any knife will still be damaged by dropping it on a hard floor or meeting something hard when stabbing etc. the blade shape really makes little to no difference. You will still need to sharpen out that little bit that's lost from the point. :):thumbup:

gmarthur said:
I was making the same decision as the OP a while ago. I ultimately went with the Large Insingo. What swayed me in the end is the much easier takedown, cleaning and reassembling process of the Insingo over the Umnum. I don't like playing around with loctite and other measures, and as somebody who gets his knives dirty that aspect was important to me. I find the easier it is to clean a knife the more work it sees especially if being used for food prep like pork and chicken.

Just giving you one more thing to consider. Hope this helped.

Greg
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An Umnumzaan and a large Insingo are the only two CR knives that I own. I have carried both allot and I have to give my vote towards the Umnumzaan. All around I have found it to be a much nicer knife for my EDC uses. You can't go wrong with either but I like the Umnum better.

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