Unwanted knife opening

killgar said:
Soooo, are we just glossing over the whole sleeping at night with a knife in your pocket part of the story? 😁 Or is this something a lot of people here do?

Maybe the knife wasn't the problem, maybe sleeping with a knife in your shorts, tossing and turning, rolling over, your full body weight pressing on it, grinding it into the bed, is what caused the partial opening.

I've carried folders with thumbstuds in my pockets for many years, a variety of brands, including a few Benchmades, and I never had one just open in my pocket. And I don't keep my pivots especially tight either. But of course, I don't sleep with them.

I'm just having a little fun with your story Jerry, no offense intended. But maybe don't sleep with knives anymore, folder or fixed-blade. It's safer that way ;).
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I've had plenty of thumb studded knives open some unintentionally pulling from the right front pocket. From pants I have, seems more prone on the ones with reinforced pockets, in particular my cargo pants and shorts. I stopped carrying thumb studded knives in those pants. It wasn't just benchmades, some civivis I used to have also got opened some.

Regarding sleeping with a knife, I've done it plenty of times without issue.

Autos have become more desireable for me because they hold the blade shut. OTF's in particular seem to be quite safe against accidental opening, at least the Microtechs I've had.
 
I did somewhat, I was trying to be tactful 🤣. This is BF, and to each their own. I'll leave it at that.
killgar said:
Soooo, are we just glossing over the whole sleeping at night with a knife in your pocket part of the story? 😁 Or is this something a lot of people here do?

Maybe the knife wasn't the problem, maybe sleeping with a knife in your shorts, tossing and turning, rolling over, your full body weight pressing on it, grinding it into the bed, is what caused the partial opening.

I've carried folders with thumbstuds in my pockets for many years, a variety of brands, including a few Benchmades, and I never had one just open in my pocket. And I don't keep my pivots especially tight either. But of course, I don't sleep with them.

I'm just having a little fun with your story Jerry, no offense intended. But maybe don't sleep with knives anymore, folder or fixed-blade. It's safer that way ;).
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I carry thumb stub and yet to get into such issue. I wouldn't say that it is of the thumb stud.

Like other people have noted, Benchmade knives are very easy to open, you just need to hold the bar and flick your hand to open it. I have a few buddies with different Benchmade models and they love that. I have a Benchmade, I find it concerning and so I tighten the pivot to keep the knife from engaging by unlocking the bar.

Most liner liner locks have that liner and a small dimple holding on the blade when it is in not fully opem or full close, while acts as a weak detention when it is fully open or fully closed. I don't feel unsafe with them.

Flipper tab on the other hand, it is where I draw the line about safety. I have a one, but more for the novelty than anything.

My EDC is a slip joint, 2 hand opening, and I'm fine with it. The rest are always carried in an empty pocket reserved for knife or tool, belt carry or backpack.
 
Deino said:
Most liner liner locks have that liner and a small dimple holding on the blade when it is in not fully opem or full close, while acts as a weak detention when it is fully open or fully closed. I don't feel unsafe with them.

Flipper tab on the other hand, it is where I draw the line about safety. I have a one, but more for the novelty than anything.
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Framelock flippers have a detent ball to keep the blade closed too. Just like a thumbstud/liner lock.

I actually think having a flipper tab is safer, because it acts as a guard when you’re using the knife so your hand can’t ride up on the blade.
 
shinyedges said:
Agreed, benchmades have very weak detent, at least all the ones I've had do.
I like a stronger detent, my inkosi wont be popping open in my pocket.
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I've noticed that too, some older models have essentially no detent. If a person is concerned about accidental opening they should test their knives to see how much detent there is and choose accordingly. Carrying in running shorts is another problem- people who are concerned about the blade opening in their pocket will sometimes use a tip-up knife so when it is in their pants pocket they can position the knife so it is against the edge of the pocket and the material keeps it from opening. Thin running shorts wouldn't offer as much resistance as something like jeans would.
 
knarfeng said:
This is why I don't sleep with a knife in my pocket. Even at my age, I have need of all my appendages, including the one which is the "primary male sexual characteristic".
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Yeah I like my Adam's apple too!
 
Hashishiin said:
I have lots of ideas about this and that from the net. I am not fooled into thinking it was training. I do think I know what constitutes BAD training now.

I do not have a Silat school within my radius either. My rec, start taking a legit martial art that includes sparring. MMA, wrestling? I know enough to know that when I train, I want to spar, I want to learn to strike and be struck, and I want to learn to wrestle and be fast. Probably on the mat.

I do not want to concentrate but a little bit on knife vs knife training. I want to be fast to get away, be able to wrestle and strike to prevent damage to myself and damage them if I need to, and to get out a weapon if some 6'3 monster is on my 5'5 back.

If you want to do some theoretical learning, would recommend books like Gift of Fear by Gavin Becker(?) Book title is right, first name is Gavin. Marc MacYoung is interesting. Learn to walk. Learn to carry spray and easily drawn weapon daily. Learn to code switch around certain places. Ierno, I guess the list of things to do changes depending on who ya are.

I understand being in a situation where you want to learn more and be safer but simply do not have time and money at this moment to dedicate to vague training, and refuse to go unprepared.
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Left of the bang is another good book to read through and incorporate in your daily.
 
bikerector said:
That's something the spydiehole prevents. Thumbstuds and discs can have catch on the inside of certain pqnts and the axis lock is well known to not hold the blades closed well. Pretty much every time I've dropped an axis lock knife, fumbling it from my pocket or just dropping off a desk or dresser, the blade would pop out.

On many BM's with an axis lock, the force is so little that you can wave it open with a wrist flick.
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Yes, a Spydie hole is not likely to catch on anything in your pocket (unless you put a zip tie on it). And Benchmades are usually easier to open with a wrist flick than a Spyderco. Still, I was trying some Spydercos just now and have several I can open with nothing but a wrist flick: two plain-edge Enduras (but not the combo edge, which is a lot stiffer), two plain-edge Pacific Salts (but not two serrated ones, which are a lot stiffer), two Caribbean Salts (both serrated, big blades are easier), a Sliverax, and one out of two PM2s (the other is stiff). I cannot wrist flick any of four Para 3s, smaller blades are harder to wrist flick). The larger blades that I cannot wrist flick are not easy to open with a thumb flick.
 
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7 inches long edge
11mm thick girth
Rigid and tough
And rubber! so no accident nor consequence!
 
I carry a very small Victorinox on my key chain and once I was opening an envelope when my boss called me into his office. I stuffed the keys and the OPEN knife into my jeans pocket without noticing it:rolleyes:. Upon leaving his office I reached into my pocket, felt instant pain and warm blood bleeding. The only thing I could think of was "please let it be my FINGER":eek:🫣, which it was🥲
 
veeteetee said:
I carry a very small Victorinox on my key chain and once I was opening an envelope when my boss called me into his office. I stuffed the keys and the OPEN knife into my jeans pocket without noticing it:rolleyes:. Upon leaving his office I reached into my pocket, felt instant pain and warm blood bleeding. The only thing I could think of was "please let it be my FINGER":eek:🫣, which it was🥲
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I've done that with the scissors on a Victorinox Classic. Luckily I didn't get cut, and it never happened to me with the actual blade.
 
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