Urban and Travel Survival


Strange ... used many a Halon system in the service. Last time I checked, I was still alive.

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Mike



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some things won't work out.
No matter what you do,
some things will work out.
Worry about those things that you can make a difference with.
 
Halon does not cause an instantaneous reaction any more than holding your breath does. This does not mean you should keep working at the mainfrae terminal should your companies Halon system kick in during a fire. Flee, but close the doors behind you so the halon can work.

Keep the mace there. If you are dead set on carrying something that will kill people irregardless of whether or not it stops them, then drill out the rounds for your .22 derringer, and put a drop of mercury in the tips, and seal them with a drop of wax. Or just get better training with your blade...


Stryver
 
Halon is used to kill oxegen in an enclosed environment. That is how it can be deadly, it suffocates someone unlucky enough to have stayed long enought to be locked into that environemnt. I find it hard to believe that it would do much more than irratate used as a mace agent. As Stryver said stick with the real thing if you want to use a spray.

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Lee

LIfe is too important to be taken seriously. Oscar Wilde
 
I guess some of us are veering off away from "survival" into "stuff that makes getting around easier."
With that in mind, I've always found that in foreign countries there's not a whole lot that can't be solved by carrying a SAK or other multitool, a small stash of U.S. $1s for bribes/tips, a pack or two of cigarettes (again for bribes/tips), a local map, a small flashlight, a pen and a lighter. If you get lost, use the map. If you need to ask directions, try sign language or write out what you're looking for. If someone seems trustworthy and has been helpful, ask if they want a cigarette. The percentage of folks abroad who smoke generally is much higher than in the U.S. and the gesture of giving someone is cigarette is roundly appreciated. Hearty handshakes and smiles speak volumes as well. If you get thirsty buy a beer and use the SAK to open it. As always, vigilance is your best friend, especially in crowded areas.
 
halon does work if squirted directly up the nose or inside the mouth.

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i know what your thinking. does he load five or does he load SIX?- dirty harry.
always load six.-me
 
Someone mentioned, Preparation, Avoidance, Improvision and Innovation. I know those to be very important.

Preparation- Extend this to include reviewing maps and Escape/Evasion scenarios, have backup plans and backups and backups, lined up so that here is no hesitation when a crisis occurs. Watch the streets, remember when the last intersection/alley/route was if you have to reverse travel. Batons are nice, and if you get the off brands, cheap enough to lose or have confiscated. Local knives, Steven Dick wrote about this including local kitchen knives, great cover, add salt and pepper and you have a picnic kit.

Avoidance- Include dressing inconspicously, camera around your neck is a total sign. Avoidance includes staring people down, develop a sense of the intentions of others, read the invisible connections between people, watch for those watching you, get paranoid, better safe than sorry.

Improvision- Tape and 550 cord are your allies, thinking out of the box.

Souvenir knife- good.

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

The cool thing about mindset, is even when you are places that you are not enjoying, you have something to think about.

Please, pardon any errors.

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Thank you,
Marion David Poff aka Eye, Cd'A ID, USA mdpoff@hotmail.com

Talonite and Cobalt Materials Resource Page

"We will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal, 210 B.C.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by not2sharp:
I do alot of international travel for business.</font>
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May I ask if you travel with a folding pocketknife, and if so, what make and model?

 
Hey,

Well I carry my Balisong around and wave it at anyone who talks to me.(I am antisocial) I also have my M4Ai under my trenchcoat!
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Actually I don't carry a knife at all when I am at school, my high school is too risky for that. (get suspended for saying "gun")

I happen to box very often at the gym with a friend and have been taught to box for two years, with a bit of martial arts background. Add in that I play soccer and basketball, each has 3 practices a week.

I feel perfectly comofortable defending myself with my hands and legs!

mason
 
While stationed in Alaska I came up with this idea and got alot of positive feedback so I ran with it. It answered alot of my questions and problems as far as driving around with a weapon and other survival items. Check it out. www.Kobrabag.com


[This message has been edited by Fallschrimjager (edited 06-12-2001).]
 
If your going abroad scan all your passports, tickets, visas etc. onto your computer, then e-mail them to a web based e-mail site like Hotmail or Yahoo ( You set up an e-mail address first of course). Then if you have them stolen you can tell the authorities, Embassy, Police, Customs etc that you have a copy of the details on the internet. I also photocopy my passport and carry the copy with me and leave the passport in the hotel safe.
 
As for pocket knives, I think the very best for travel is the SAK since they are far more useful for general utility than a single blade and can get through any airport scan. I've been through hundreds of international airports, always with a SAK in my pocket. Apart from all the other suggestions, a mini sewing kit is great for repairs to luggage etc.
 
A lot of this involves flying "under the radar" and common sense. For instance, if you are travelling and stop to get gas, get the right amount of bills in your hand before getting out of your vehicle. Not smart to pull a bill out of a roll in front of strangers.
 
If you get out of your car with less than someone thinks you would normally have, your car may be targeted.
1. A friend went to as I recall around 160th Street and Collins Ave. on Miami Beach. (A nice beach fairly far up from the main hotel area that one might think of as of Miami Beach.) Apparently, and I suppose this was supposition on his part and the police, someone was watching with binoculars, and while he was at the beach, they broke into his car. He would not normally be a target type as he was over 6 ft., young, and in decent shape.

2. If a woman gets out of the car without a purse, potential thieves will believe a purse may still be in the car and your car thus becomes a target. If you as a woman, frequently have to be in such an area, have an obviously cheap purse--say vinyl--to carry with you with only what you can afford to lose, but probably at least $10 -for emergencies and to please a potentially violent thief.
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What every one else said.
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Note, sure a camera may make you a target, but remember that a heavy one on the end of a strap can make a fine weapon. I recall a thief in N.Y.? learned this when he was given an 1.5 inch indentation in his skull by a camera (Nikon?)
Another tip I learned from Ron. Carabineers are often used to hold keys, etc., are commonly carried, and often have some surival uses besides climbing. If you have it around your hand when you smack someone, ouch!

[This message has been edited by Donald (edited 06-19-2001).]
 
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