Using a knife as prybar

Doesn't every man carry a toolbox of some kind in their car or truck for roadside emergencies even if it only includes just the very basic screwdrivers, channelock pliers and hammer? Why would I ever use a knife for prying unless it was an absolute emergency with no time for anything else?

If I had to pry anything like a gas lid just use a plain old screwdriver.
 
i think every1 who has used knives extensively has had the 'Broken Tip Experience'
i broke the tip off a gerber gator prying an engine cover off but i knew i was taking
a chance / experimenting with the strength of the knife.

once i did that i had a basic feel for the 'prying torque limit' of most knives which
is hopefully now permanently installed in my "fine motor skill" memory.
since then i havent broken any other tips.
 
i think every1 who has used knives extensively has had the 'Broken Tip Experience'

:thumbup: For sure, tho some people will wonder why their knife broke when they try to pry that 100 lb man-hole cover off! :D
 
I never liked the "folding prybar" idea of a knife. Whether it's small enough to fit on a keychain or the size of a crowbar, a prybar should be made from a tough steel, and will be relatively soft (compared to a knife's steel) to increase toughness. No matter how thick you make a knife tip, it'll still be much harder than necessary for prying, meaning it'll also be much more brittle. Even if a knife is "made" to handle prying, it's still a poor choice, because said knife will also likely be very expensive, whereas a small prybar is only a few bucks.

That said, I fully understand designing or carrying a knife that, if no other option is available, can handle some prying if it's a life and death type situation. But if prying is something you do with any frequency, use a tool meant for prying. Like the countycomm Widgy, or even an Atwood tool (expensive, but still purpose-built, and more suitable than a knife).

I have little sympathy for someone who snaps the tip of their knife doing a prying job that a prybar, flathead screwdriver, or the bottle opener of a SAK would have handled just fine.
 
People break and damage their knives all the time by prying with them.

And almost every time, it's silly and needless. I can understand an emergency situation, but generally speaking, it's due to being unprepared or lazy.

I'm with alex on this. Why doesn't the original poster have a toolbox in his car? Or any other tools at all?
 
I pry with my knives all the time, although I avoid prying with the tip and I try to be a little more gentle with folders.

I always laugh at threads like this where people say you shouldn't pry with a knife. My sog flash 1 (generally not considered high end) has opened everything from paint tins, to stuck windows, and its still fine.

I know a knife is meant to cut not to pry and so on and so fourth, but I have no intention of EDCing a toolbox full of stuff when good knife and a little common sense can do the job.
 
I always laugh at threads like this where people say you shouldn't pry with a knife. My sog flash 1 (generally not considered high end) has opened everything from paint tins, to stuck windows, and its still fine.

Yeah, I hear ya, I always laugh at those people who break their knives trying to pry stuff that they shouldn't have :D
 
Prybar = prying things

Knife = cutting things

No choice? You risk breaking/damaging your knife if you use it as a prybar.
Simple as that.

Go to the hardware store and buy a prybar/crowbar to keep in your trunk. Should be standard gear in all vehicles. They are cheap. Your knife is not.
 
But if prying is something you do with any frequency, use a tool meant for prying. Like the countycomm Widgy, or even an Atwood tool (expensive, but still purpose-built, and more suitable than a knife).

For those that are too lazy to check out the options it is probably worth at least knowing this fact: The countycomm pocket widgy costs $5.50. I bought a pocket widgy, micro widgy & pico widgy for about $15 - I don't need to risk damaging a knife that cost $60 or more to open a paint can.
 
Pick up a Gerber Artifact, they cost about 8 bucks, they are easily carried and no one will call you a moron for prying with your knife when you already know you're a moron for doing so.
 
I carry one blade for extreme usage.......an H.I. Chiruwa Ang Khola.
Serves my cutting and chopping needs well and is warranted for use as a prybar.
No need for me to look any further.
 
  • I had to pry open my gas hatch on my car with my Izula today 'cause it froze over.
  • What on Earth are people prying to break their knives? More importantly, what kinds of things have people pried with causing surprisingly little damage?

It is not what they are prying, it is the steel with which they are prying. The Izula is 1095, which is a reasonably tough non-stainless alloy. You can get away with a lot when using it because it is tough. Stainless steels are normally more brittle than non-stainless steels. This is even more true with a stainless steel heat treated to maximize edge retention.

I would guess that some folks with high-end, high edge-retention blades might have problems using them to perform the task you used the Izula to perform without damage.
 
It is not what they are prying, it is the steel with which they are prying. The Izula is 1095, which is a reasonably tough non-stainless alloy. You can get away with a lot when using it because it is tough. Stainless steels are normally more brittle than non-stainless steels. This is even more true with a stainless steel heat treated to maximize edge retention.

I would guess that some folks with high-end, high edge-retention blades might have problems using them to perform the task you used the Izula to perform without damage.

Yeah, I guess I didn't really consider that. Plus the Izula is a little thick at the tip. I was just amazed that I didn't snap the tip and wondered what people must be doing with theirs. I mean, I remember as a kid prying open crates with my USMC too, but that doesn't seem as impressive.

Oh, and I wasn't saying I think knives should be pried with, I was just caught with my pants down and I'm surprised I didn't break it. As far as the "You should have been prepared," I'm not sure how that's not an obvious conclusion, but here's a more obvious statement: Sometimes people are caught unprepared. I ran out of gas on the side of a low-lit country road, ice all over, low visibility, heavy snow-fall and all in 18 degrees. I guess I could have tried to get all the crap out of the back and make it to my spare and the tire iron, but I wanted to get the heck off the road before someone came up and hit me or my car--I already had the time I had to spend pouring the gas, so that on top of digging around for a tool I should have had on-hand was not time I wanted to take. Especially not on this road as I've nearly hit people pulled over myself.

I mean, really, my biggest error in preparedness came in not ensuring I had enough gas. Then it was not de-icing the gas hatch. The real emergency was having all this come together in rather precarious circumstances.

I wouldn't say it was a moment of life or death, but it was definitely a moment where I decided a $50 knife wasn't worth sticking around to find out.
 
It is not what they are prying, it is the steel with which they are prying. The Izula is 1095, which is a reasonably tough non-stainless alloy. You can get away with a lot when using it because it is tough. Stainless steels are normally more brittle than non-stainless steels. This is even more true with a stainless steel heat treated to maximize edge retention.

I would guess that some folks with high-end, high edge-retention blades might have problems using them to perform the task you used the Izula to perform without damage.

:thumbup:
 
I used my EOD breacher bar to pry the handle off an AK-47 bayonet. Those things really don't want to come off...
 
When I was new in knife I used my endura to separate 2 pieces of wood... Not a good idea, but know I know "NO PRY" !
 
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