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I bought this stuff with the intentions to use it on SS at 1950 degs... 154CM 
but I said to myself,, SELF ! why not use it on the steels needing only 1500 deg temps.
I have the reg PBC but dipping the blades sounded a lot easier to me, with a lot less mess and I'll try anything once, nice timing to, 14 blades to play with all at once
do or die 
OK,,,, I've used it finally
and with,
I think good results. you'll see hung up, some with the PBC applied by dipping the blades, dipped twice, let dry between coats. until dry and to a Grey color. BTW the steel is 1085.
and you'll see some already quenched and snap tempered at 400 deg with the toaster oven you see in the picture, the first ones will be snap tempered and the last ones will not be, only because of the timing I'm H/T ing 14 blades,
I need to wait for the Evenheat oven to be available and cooled down to 550 deg's and where I am heating each one, one at a time it will be a while before the first ones see their tempering..
you can see some of the PBC wiped right off with the rag I used to wipe the quench oil off with. I'll see how the rest comes off after the tempering is complete. but over all I'm very happy with it.. before the dip I just went over the blade with a scotch bright belt. blade finish is not my primary goal with these blades, they will be worked Hard.. I had to use the flash on the Camera so the pictures are crappy..
this is my Even heat recovering to 1500 deg's after I placed another blade in loosing about 50 degs,, taking about 5 min's once recovered
I then time 5 min's. to quench time..
quench time,,, here you'll see that I use steel tubing welded to a base for my quenching.. I have 5 of these all at different sizes for use depending on the blade I'm quenching.. I'm using Brownniells Tough quench preheated to
~ to 130 deg ( for the first quench it will get a lot hotter after the first quench.
once I quench the blade and it get down to about a light smoking I hang it in another tube to let it dip off.
mean while the next blade goes in to heat heat.
I take the last blade out of the drip tube wipe it down and check it for warping, the blade temp right now, if you do this at the right speed is at about 350 deg's, this is the time to straiten it, you'll have about 4-5 min's to do so from the time you first quenched it.. then
I poured 1/2 of the oil out of the tube I'm using into another tube to cool and then refill with room temp oil leaving me with ~130 deg oil again, and now ready for the next one to come out.. which will be in about two min's or less
right now The oven is cooled to under 550 deg so I set it up (the evenheat) to temper all the blade at once..at 550 deg's for two hours,,
BTW these quenched very nice and new file can't touch them..
I'll be back with other info if you are interested if you have any questions please feel free to do so..
but I said to myself,, SELF ! why not use it on the steels needing only 1500 deg temps.
I have the reg PBC but dipping the blades sounded a lot easier to me, with a lot less mess and I'll try anything once, nice timing to, 14 blades to play with all at once
do or die OK,,,, I've used it finally
and with,
I think good results. you'll see hung up, some with the PBC applied by dipping the blades, dipped twice, let dry between coats. until dry and to a Grey color. BTW the steel is 1085.
and you'll see some already quenched and snap tempered at 400 deg with the toaster oven you see in the picture, the first ones will be snap tempered and the last ones will not be, only because of the timing I'm H/T ing 14 blades,
I need to wait for the Evenheat oven to be available and cooled down to 550 deg's and where I am heating each one, one at a time it will be a while before the first ones see their tempering..
you can see some of the PBC wiped right off with the rag I used to wipe the quench oil off with. I'll see how the rest comes off after the tempering is complete. but over all I'm very happy with it.. before the dip I just went over the blade with a scotch bright belt. blade finish is not my primary goal with these blades, they will be worked Hard.. I had to use the flash on the Camera so the pictures are crappy..
this is my Even heat recovering to 1500 deg's after I placed another blade in loosing about 50 degs,, taking about 5 min's once recovered
I then time 5 min's. to quench time..
quench time,,, here you'll see that I use steel tubing welded to a base for my quenching.. I have 5 of these all at different sizes for use depending on the blade I'm quenching.. I'm using Brownniells Tough quench preheated to
~ to 130 deg ( for the first quench it will get a lot hotter after the first quench.
once I quench the blade and it get down to about a light smoking I hang it in another tube to let it dip off.
mean while the next blade goes in to heat heat.
I take the last blade out of the drip tube wipe it down and check it for warping, the blade temp right now, if you do this at the right speed is at about 350 deg's, this is the time to straiten it, you'll have about 4-5 min's to do so from the time you first quenched it.. then
I poured 1/2 of the oil out of the tube I'm using into another tube to cool and then refill with room temp oil leaving me with ~130 deg oil again, and now ready for the next one to come out.. which will be in about two min's or less
right now The oven is cooled to under 550 deg so I set it up (the evenheat) to temper all the blade at once..at 550 deg's for two hours,,
BTW these quenched very nice and new file can't touch them..
I'll be back with other info if you are interested
if you have any questions please feel free to do so..
Ordered some foil from Tracy last night and still have some regular PBC thankfully. Glad to hear your results were better than mine.
