Using Yojimbo2 as utility knife? anyone??

brightb said:
Mine has seen action against 3/4" Christmas tree branches, and some nice cured Bosnian sausage:D
Worked great, but had to get sap off the g-10

Bill
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Lol, it's tough to get sap of carbon fiber too.

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I love my CS Mini Tac Kiridashi, but have been wanting the same thing but in a folder for legal carry reasons, and had been looking at the Blackhawk Be Wharned, Didn't think the Yojimbo was still around. I wish the hole position was a little highter up so that a Wave version would be possible, and I don't know anything about this lock (the one from the Manix 2 would IMO be ideal). I hate liner locks and would even prefer an ordinary old fasioned two hand required lockback to one. Guess I need to read up on the Spyderco compression lock. I really prefer a Wave or similar type open on drawing feature. my idea above IDK, would have been too wide when closed anyway (hate when knives fill a whole pocket), as is, cutting off the top forward of the hole would ruin the whole blade design. Regardless, even without those preferences, still looks to be my best bet. Something apparently better than a standard liner lock, great steel (I hear the Be Wharned is in the class of Civilian as a medium duty utility knife).

surprising how well these triangle/tall/short wharncliffe blades penetrate. I know they are not built to to be driven thru bone, but they poke as well or better than any dagger or stilletto I've seen. Doesn't seem like it would, with the tip so far off center. But then again, thats also true of the Hissatsu. All in all I think it's the best design in a small defensive blade, and as for utility/EDC, haven't missed having a belly on the blade yet, probably wont until I dress out game with my pocketknife.

FWIW, besides the Kiridashi, my EDC is a Turboknife boxcutter I bought for use at work, lighter and with pocket clip so as to keep with me. This design as a SD weapon is inferior to your ordinary aluminum handle one (more akward to open, it's an OTF with full length switch, and doesn't apper to have tremendous lock strength, also the super quick blade change device (a dial you turn 45 degrees or so) doesnt seem combat tough), and possibly the folding knife style ones (which suck as far as opening and still heavy and bulky). But for day to day cutting chores, gets the job done and is always literally razor sharp...or 2 seconds away from it. Pretty cool for now but hopefully soon can consolidate the two I got into a Yojimbo 2.
 
IMightBeWrong said:
I personally think utility is what is excels at. In spite of what Mr. Janich has to say about it, I really don't see how it's any more of a self defense knife than any other locking knife on the market. It's more like a perfect utility EDC IMO.
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The self-defense characteristics of the Yojimbo 2 are in its ergonomic fit in the hand (especially when held in the Modified Filipino Grip Janich endorses in his MBC program), the wharncliffe blade and the compression lock. The Modified Filipino Grip places the thumb out on top of the back of the blade and the emphasis of the grip is on the last three fingers (the middle, ring and pinky fingers). The extended thumb allows for a more dexterity when weilding the knife. When held in a hammer grip one loses a fair ammount of dexterity so MBC favors the MFG. The reason the last three fingers are favored over, say a Saber grip, is simple. If you hold the knife so that your middle, ring and pinky fingers are engaged in securing the knife in your hand you are employing a much stronger grip than the Saber grip. The Saber grip places emphasis on the thumb and pointer finger. these two digits grip the knife toward the hilt which in turn causes the meaty base of your thumb to be somewhat away from the spine of the knife's handle. Change your grip so that the middle, ring and pinky fingers are doing the gripping and the thumb is out on the back of the blade and the base of the thumb will come to rest on the spine of the knife handle thereby solidifying the grip. The middle, ring and pinky fingers also share a physiologically stonger ability to grip. I believe this is due to their sharing a connection or group of tendons vs. the pointer finger. Mike has this all outlined in his presentations backed up by medical reseach so I should leave that to him to explain if he cares to. The details of the medical minutia escape me at this moment.


Mike chose the wharcliffe, for many reasons as KNaB has quoted above. The straight edge of the wharncliffe is always in contact with the surface it is cutting despite arc of deployement. Mike's research has shown that blades with a deep belly do not perform in this capacity as well as straight edges do. The wedge shaped ramp on the Yojimbo 2 blade actually helps dump more cutting power into the edge of the blade when it is utilized to thrust into a target. The forward drive of a thrust causes the top of the blade's ramp to drive the edge down and into the target as it penetrates, creating a deeper wound channel. Mike has demonstrated this live on "Porkman" on several occassions.


I hope my long winded explaination was helpful.

Stay safe,

Chris
 
When I first saw it and heard it was designed principally as a self-defense knife, I had no interest. When I saw the video explaining how it's also a good utility blade, I bought one. I've carried it a lot, but admit I haven't done any hard use with it yet. But it's a good Wharncliffe blade, which pretty much speaks for itself in terms of utility value.

The way I see it, I'll never be in a knife fight. Never say "never," I guess. But realistically .... no. So I need a knife that will do more for me than make me feel macho*. And I feel the Yo2 is just as utilitarian as any other Spyderco that I happen to own.


* This term isn't a slag on people trained in fighting weapons. My point is that I am NOT trained and, therefore, carrying the "perfect tactical blade" would be, for me, more about ego than anything else.
 
Mud Shrimp Moe said:
When I first saw it and heard it was designed principally as a self-defense knife, I had no interest. When I saw the video explaining how it's also a good utility blade, I bought one. I've carried it a lot, but admit I haven't done any hard use with it yet. But it's a good Wharncliffe blade, which pretty much speaks for itself in terms of utility value.

The way I see it, I'll never be in a knife fight. Never say "never," I guess. But realistically .... no. So I need a knife that will do more for me than make me feel macho*. And I feel the Yo2 is just as utilitarian as any other Spyderco that I happen to own.


* This term isn't a slag on people trained in fighting weapons. My point is that I am NOT trained and, therefore, carrying the "perfect tactical blade" would be, for me, more about ego than anything else.
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No worries. I appreciate the exchange of ideas and views.

"Knife fights" or dueling rarely occur on the street. What MBC advocates is that the Yojimbo 2 is designed to be a functional self-defense knife. One does not need to be facing an attacker armed with a knife in order to be justified in defending themselves. Martial Blade Concepts was built around the idea that small, leagally carried folding knives were more likely to be carried on a daily basis (and therefore readily available) than some, big, custom built "fighting knife". Self-defense situations can arise anywhere and if you are in fear of great bodily harm or possibly death, then you are therefore justified in defending yourself with deadly force. I see it as a form of insurance. You have it but hope you never NEED it. That can apply to lots of items in our daily lives, like seat belts ( I wear one every time I'm in a vehicle but I pray I never NEED it.) The same can be said for fire extinguishers, AED's (Automated External Defibrillators), life insurance, auto insurance, an emergency savings account, etc.
 
Classy response, Chris. I hope I was clear that I have no problem with training in "martial blades" and if I had the time might even pay for some training myself. Legitimate self defense is A-OK by me. I don't see it as a high risk in my life, but readily admit that you never really know what life has in store for you.
 
Mud Shrimp Moe said:
Classy response, Chris. I hope I was clear that I have no problem with training in "martial blades" and if I had the time might even pay for some training myself. Legitimate self defense is A-OK by me. I don't see it as a high risk in my life, but readily admit that you never really know what life has in store for you.
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Certainly, I understand.:D
 
aa1pd said:
It should work great. My work knife is a Kershaw Needs Work. Which is a very similar looking wharncliffe blade. Works Great as a utility knife.

http://www.kershawknives.com/productdetails.php?id=385
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My sons are both mechanics, one heavy equipment the other work on manufacturing machinery. Before discovering Spyderco I gave them a Needs Work knife and recently gave them each a Yojimb2. They both like the new knife.
 
pinetreebbs said:
My sons are both mechanics, one heavy equipment the other work on manufacturing machinery. Before discovering Spyderco I gave them a Needs Work knife and recently gave them each a Yojimb2. They both like the new knife.
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As well they should! What an awesome gift!

For perspective, for Christmas I got a Husky Multitool from Home Depot. Probably worth $10. :(
 
It seems like the Yojimbo would be perfect for utility work. The blade shape is really no different than a Stanley utility knife. I don't see why it wouldn't do well in utility. Most utility knives are wharnies.

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