Vanadium carbide steels?

Yup. 4v is worse still. A LOT worse.

Willie71 said:
Cruforge-v has extra carbon and little else to work with, so the extra carbon is going to for, carbides.
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The former, more so than the latter. There were several different formulas and permutations tried before this one was settled upon. Shame that it's forever gone.

jdm61 said:
CFV also has .5% chromium, but I was told two stories,onethat the original recipe was pretty darn shallow hardening and the other was that he C helped the stuff roll more easily.
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Mike Turner bought the last billet, but I think that he either relinquished it or sold it. Not sure, but I'm pretty sure it's gone now. He was selling .113" thick sheets for a while, but moved into a different career and sort of disappeared from the knifemaker radar. Adam and Haley have a heap of it, and at this point I would think they've got process for this nailed down better than anyone. If Adam says L6 is the right combination, I'll bet he's right!

Chuck at Alpha looks to have snagged two and a half tons of the stuff - that may sound like a lot, but considering this will likely never be made again, it's far too little.

jdm61 said:
It got bought by one of our other BFC brethren.
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Damn it. Just when I thought I wouldn't have to worry about hoarding lifetime supplies of stuff like with ammunition and magazines I have to stock up on steel and stag :(
 
2.5 tons was a "full billet" as I understand. That is what Adam told me he bought. I think he bought all round bar. Kelly Cupples also has or had had a pile of the stuff. I couldn't remember Mike's name, but like you said, he was the guy who snagged that last billet and had the stuff rolled into the less than 1/4 thick stock. The story of the failure of CFV is a sad one as it would appear that people chose not adopt it because they thought it would not be available again when they needed it. Because "nobody wanted it" nobody picked up like we have seen with flat bar 52100, 1084, W2, 80CrV2,etc. Three of those four steels were essentially not made anymore over here and 80CrV2 was a "euro" steel not readily available in the US like O2 has become.
 
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