Vargo Ti BOT?

Spondonicle is just an old fashioned word for pliar-like pot gripper thingy. Here is my pot with bail, a stainless strap handle on a plain old billy can. Some others have a wire bail.
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Yeah I understand the dual use and situational applications for the ti bot. It's another piece of cool camp gear to select from.
 
FYI - I've seen a few reviews where people have cooked with the gasket left on the lid (flipped over, not screwed down, of course). The gasket is made of a heat-resistant silicone that seems to do fine as long as it's not exposed to direct flame.

I go back and forth on having bails on my pots. They can be handy for suspending a pot above a fire, but honestly, that's not something I really do that often. And it's one more niggly thing to catch on stuff, break, etc. But I know some people love 'em.

I also usually carry a lightweight multi-tool with me on backcountry trips, and among it's many other uses, it also has a 'spondonicle' - although most people seem to refer to it simply as 'pliers.' :D
 
sideways said:
Cool, enjoy your bot. :thumbup:
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Thx! Btw, I have a nesting canteen stove/cup that I picked up a few years back from the Canteen Shop. It's great for what it is, but it's heavy, and I much prefer my Emberlit for cooking on. I found that the canteen stove, being a fair bit smaller, required a lot more continual tending to keep it going.

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Since this is largely going to be in my hunting/day pack just as emergency gear, and my hunting pack is already fairly heavy, I want to keep this kit as light as possible.

I'm also hoping that I can nest my 450ml. mug inside the BOT for a little more versatility when needed - we'll see when it arrives.

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We will see some "in the wild" shots of it being used, yes? :)
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Definitely. I'll be putting it to use soon. Pics to come.
 
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Vargo says the bot is designed to replace both your water bottle and your pot. I think that is damn silly. I like Vargo's products, and love the little folding wood stove I bought, but I can't see any use for this product.
 
Well, if you believed everything you read in a product description...:rolleyes: :D

I'm not buying it as a substitute for a water bottle, as I usually carry my water in a separate container. Nor am I buying as a substitute for a pot, when I'm on the sort of trip where I would be packing a pot (which is only on a planned, multi-day trip - I don't pack a pot when I'm only going on a day hike). But as something that is very lightweight and can do double-duty as either in a pinch, plus serve as my compact emergency gear container? I think it might fit the bill. We'll see...
 
Oh I can definitely see the utility in a narrow set of circumstances. You use your bottled water and need to purify more, so you do a couple of boils to refill those bottles, and one more to carry in the Ti Bot. Or use it in the place of a pot on a day trip to boil water for a FD meal, most of which cook in the pouch now, then a short boil for a hot drink, all without getting the Ti Bot dirty and having to wash it. Lighter and more compact than most pots. And you have a plan for handling it hot with no bail or handle. I can see how it could be useful. Whether or not it fits into my kit and activities, I still enjoy seeing new gear.
 
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It's multipurpose mania.... It's like carrying wool socks that could do double duty as gloves or socks... It's all fine and good until you need gloves AND socks. :D

I too enjoy seeing new gear and look forward to seeing the action pics. The way the bot would fit in my system is as a pack-and-forget waterproof emergency container for items that need to stay dry. Fire kit, water purification, cellphone, toilet paper, unlaminated maps, energy bars etc. In that role it shines. You have a single container that covers most of the 10 essentials. It could be used for cooking and schlepping water in an emergency and you can easily transfer it from pack to pack.
 
Update:

BOT arrived the other day. Here are a few pics.

It fits nicely on top of my Emberlit. The gasket on the lid was unaffected by cooking:

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Here's my intended kit - BOT, Emberlit, Kifaru Sm. Pullout w/essentials, SOL Emergency Bivy, Camelback Bottle Pouch. It all fits in the Camelback, except for the stove:

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Contents of the Kifaru Pullout - 10' of p-cord, roll of duct tape, signal mirror, whistle, compass, matches/lighter/fire stick, several types of tinder, quick energy food, H20-proof marker, and water treatment:

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Also, as hoped, my Toaks 750ml Ti cup nests perfectly inside, and I can still get the whole Pullout in:

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This all came together just as I had hoped. The whole kit pictured above, including the Toaks mug and a folding Ti spork is shy of 2.5lbs. Obviously, these last two items aren't critical and there are a few other things I could streamline or drop to make it even lighter. But this kit provides decent shelter, ways to make a fire and cook, a little quick sustenance, a couple signaling devices, and a way to treat water in the event that I don't fire up the stove to boil.

As I mentioned before, this kit is intended to live in a day pack, so other essential items I would generally have with me to accompany this any time I go out are essential clothing (and a backup layer), a knife (or two), a small 1st Aid Kit and a firearm. Depending on the situation, I also have a silnylon tarp that is easy to throw in the pack and weighs nothing.

More to come...
 
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This all came together just as I had hoped. The whole kit pictured above, including the Toaks mug and a folding Ti spork is shy of 2.5lbs. Obviously, these last two items aren't critical and there are a few other things I could streamline or drop to make it even lighter. But this kit provides decent shelter, ways to make a fire and cook, a little quick sustenance, a couple signaling devices, and a way to treat water in the event that I don't fire up the stove to boil.

As I mentioned before, this kit is intended to live in a day pack, so other essential items I would generally have with me to accompany this any time I go out are essential clothing (and a backup layer), a knife (or two), a small 1st Aid Kit and a firearm. Depending on the situation, I also have a silnylon tarp that is easy to throw in the pack and weighs nothing.

More to come...
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Nice! You might include a small cheap blade in the kit. A Jarbenza? Something light and utilitarian. I keep a zytel handled Schrade SP2 lightweight in my PFD pocket, their version of the Gerber LST. Just a thought. Thanks for the update!

Michael
 
I have an SS Guyot Nalgene already, so a Bot seems redundant to me. However, I keep thinking about getting one just because I think it's neat.
 
A little update on this kit - I've added and dropped a few things, including that Camelback bottle holder, which was just bulky and unecessary. The whole kit simply lives in a lightweight nylon stuff sack now.

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I've got it down to 1.5 lbs without sacrificing anything, which is about as much as I wanted a kit like this to weigh.

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And I spent some time on a 20º F day in the SOL Emergency Bivy. Overall, for the size and weight of it, I'm pretty impressed. Certainly much more effective at retaining heat, and keeping out the elements, than those "space blanket" things. Of course, if I was going to be stuck out in this bivy for any length of time, I'd 1) find a more sheltered place to hunker, 2) build a layer of boughs to lay on top of for additional insulation from the cold ground, or dig myself into the snow.

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All in all, for a lightweight kit that I can easily throw in a pack and doesn't take up much room, and that covers all the bases, I'm pretty happy with this setup.
 
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