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Vegtable tanned leather

Discussion in 'Sheaths & Such' started by Dixieblade57, Nov 24, 2008.

  1. Dixieblade57

    Dixieblade57

    Jun 20, 2007
    I have made some leather sheaths, however these weren't made from vegtable tanned leather and I think that's what most folks expect when they get a sheath and I think it probably makes a better sheath.
    Since I need to make some out of vegtable tanned leather. I figured it would be wise to ask a few questions. I have learned it's better to buy in large quantity as long as you know what you are buying since my knowledge is not at the top of my game in vegtable tanned leather, I thought I would ask a few questions!

    What is a good reputable dealer to buy vegtable tanned leather from?

    When buying vegtable tanned leather for sheaths what weight do you recommend to buy?

    What do you usally buy, belly, sides, or something else?

    I appreciate any info you can share with me on this subject!
     
  2. Phil Dwyer

    Phil Dwyer KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 28, 2006
  3. Dixieblade57

    Dixieblade57

    Jun 20, 2007
    Thanks, the info is very helpful especially about the where to buy! I still could use a little more info as to the thickness to use. Both of those link were the same and there wasn't alot of discussion as to thickness!
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2008
  4. DC KNIVES

    DC KNIVES

    Nov 25, 2000
    When buying your leather look for shoulders or backs.Sides can be used but only the upper portion is good for sheaths.Stay away from bellies, way too stretchy to be much good.
    As far as weights, this can vary from maker to maker, but generally 4-5 oz.for small folders, 7-8 oz for sheaths up to about 8", then 9-10 oz for bigger sheaths.Hope this helps.Dave:)
     
  5. StretchNM

    StretchNM

    Dec 7, 2006
    I agree with DC and can add nothing to that.
     
  6. DC KNIVES

    DC KNIVES

    Nov 25, 2000
  7. Dixieblade57

    Dixieblade57

    Jun 20, 2007
    Thanks for all the great info. I now have sevral new sites added to my favorites list!:thumbup:
     
  8. Swivelknife

    Swivelknife

    205
    Dec 28, 2003
    Wickett & Craig---period!!!
     
  9. sheathmaker

    sheathmaker Custom Leather Sheaths Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 18, 2005
    As my good old buddy, Swivelknife says, Wickett and Craig is my first choice and has been for about three years now. I will admit they are better if you are a volume user, but they are great for the smaller orders also. I buy strictly sides in skirting and have them split to whatever weight I want. I am currently using four of their colors (russet, chestnut, brown and black) and I buy split 7/8 and 2/3 mostly with an occasional 8/10 thrown into the mix. they split free of charge and generally there's enough good leather in the belly to handle welts and that kind of stuff so the waste is not bad at all. They do have shoulders and backs in things other than skirting.

    Paul
     
  10. Dixieblade57

    Dixieblade57

    Jun 20, 2007
    Wickett and Craig sounds good but, hey I don't have the cash flow to buy 10 sides at a time. You said they split for free. Please explain exactly what you mean.
    When I think of splitting leather I think of making it thinner, is that what you mean?
    Next question what exactly do you use the the split leather for?
    Edging and such, now if I could specify that I wanted several cuts 3/4" wide and split in thicknes for edging then we might be talking turkey!
    Please feel free to enlighten me I might reconsider my opinion on buying there. Still not sur how I could afford to buy 10 sides at a time but the extras might entice me!
     
  11. sheathmaker

    sheathmaker Custom Leather Sheaths Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 18, 2005
    Dixie, W/C will sell one of anything they carry just as quickly as they sell 10 or 20 or more. Most of my orders are for four sides or less and that it because I use several of their colors. My annual usage this year will be the greatest it's ever been and I have taken delivery on 36 sides, but all the orders were for relatively small quantities. If you call, talk to Glen Proud at extension 222. He is great to work with.

    All their skirting leather starts out at least 8/10 ounce. I use mostly 7/8 and 2/3 so I take advantage of their no charge splitting service to get down to the weights I use the most. They keep the split and I imagine sell it to partially defray their expense. Splits generally sell for a dollar or two a square foot, but since there is no top grain the uses are limited.

    Paul
     
  12. rayban

    rayban

    Apr 14, 2007
    Dixie...I always buy just one side at a time from W&C, and I always ask for 8-10oz. I find it good for other projects I do besides knife sheaths.:thumbup:
     
  13. Chuddy Bear

    Chuddy Bear

    973
    Feb 13, 2005
    If you have any other questions feel free to fire away.
     
  14. Chuddy Bear

    Chuddy Bear

    973
    Feb 13, 2005
    If you have any other questions fire away. If you want to talk, send me a PM or e-mail and I will send my cell number to you. :D

    Hope this helps. I know its a bit confusing at first.
     
  15. Dixieblade57

    Dixieblade57

    Jun 20, 2007
    Thanks for the info, cleared up some things I was sorta fuzzy about. I will more than likely order from them then. Maybe one day I can generate enough business to afford to order ten at a time. Right now I am just not building that many knives!
    This is what I mean by edging,
    http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594687
    This is a another thread on sheaths and such, the knife and sheath are displayed by, Hmathews!
    The edge of the sheath is done with a cap strip or edging as I call it. That my not be proper term but that's what I always called it. Anyway I have made sheaths similarly and used an edging it has to be thined down enough to where it is easy to form and follow the edge of the sheath.
     

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