Vic blade-less models are out.

ShaiHulud said:
Ran a quick search, Google found none but listed UK, Japan and South Korea for having some of the strictest regulations, but didnt name any place with a draconian stick up the arse
The UK being famous for their knife laws still allows a non locking knife under 3 inches which is still a pretty decently sized blade
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Korea you're good up to 60mm without a reason to carry (and larger otherwise, like for work). A classic fits.
 
The sites I have read seem conflicted on Singapore. Thailand was listed as no knives as well on one site.

I guess it would be very wise to not assume it is OK and verify before entering whatever country you are planning on visiting.
 
ShaiHulud said:
Ran a quick search, Google found none but listed UK, Japan and South Korea for having some of the strictest regulations, but didnt name any place with a draconian stick up the arse
The UK being famous for their knife laws still allows a non locking knife under 3 inches which is still a pretty decently sized blade
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I've been to the U.K. and had a SAK out. We were having some lunch in Hyde Park at a bench with some bread and cheese we bought, and I was using a SAK tinker to slice up the bread nd cheese. A Bobbie walked by and didn't say boo at the SAK. And in France, the only trouble I had was at the Louvre where they didn't allow knives in the museum.
 
jackknife said:
I've been to the U.K. and had a SAK out. We were having some lunch in Hyde Park at a bench with some bread and cheese we bought, and I was using a SAK tinker to slice up the bread nd cheese. A Bobbie walked by and didn't say boo at the SAK. And in France, the only trouble I had was at the Louvre where they didn't allow knives in the museum.
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I bet if you had a heavy use folding knife you would have lasered through the cheese effortlessly 😉🙄, and France us famous for not being able to carry most opinels in most of the cities..
Still curious about the country that allows no knives however
 
ShaiHulud said:
I bet if you had a heavy use folding knife you would have lasered through the cheese effortlessly 😉🙄, and France us famous for not being able to carry most opinels in most of the cities..
Still curious about the country that allows no knives however
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Yeah, if the Opinwl has the locking ring, you can't carry it France! Weird, huh???? One of their best known national products and French citizens can't carry them without going to the Bastile.

BUT...while there, I did look around and see a very good number of the little Opinels in all kinds of bright colors on keyring and keychains. And moe than a fw SAK classics in assorted colors around. But I think the anti knife thing is exaggerated and it's a thing to help the law and the bobbies/Gendarmes/Guarda have a tool to stop and look at the ones that need looking at. But a "normal" citizen going about his or her business doesn't need to fear the law from carrying a small knife. Notice that they all say with reasonable need.
 
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jackknife said:
Yeah, if the Opinwl has the locking ring, you can't carry it France! Weird, huh???? One of their best known national products and French citizens can't carry them without going to the Bastile.

BUT...while there, I did look around and see a very good number of the little Opinels in all kinds of bright colors on keyring and keychains. And moe than a fw SAK classics in assorted colors around. But I think the anti knife thing is exaggerated and it's a thing to help the law and the bobbies/Gendarmes/Guarda have a tool to stop and look at the ones that need looking at. But a "normal" citizen going about his or her business doesn't need to fear the law from carry9ing a small knife. Notice that they all say with reasonable need.
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Quite interesting in an unfortunate way about it, I've never felt comfortable with a friction folder keychain, seems like an accident waiting to happen but maybe not.
Yet somehow America and maybe a few other places have convinced themselves that they need a super strong folding knife to do things people have done since forever with a slipjoint knife, to end on an on topic point, however I dont see any point in a bladeless sak, someone here said they asked victorinox and they came back with a reply stating its just a travel convenience. I can see in some light how having a folding sak scissors only tool can be useful as a knife in a pinch, but id get absolutely no use from a cap lifter can opener only tool, except for tying it to a ice chest for parties.
 
Well despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth, I have a Companion Slim coming via DLT Trading by the first of the week. "Fool!, FOOL!" you say, "It is Swiss Army KNIFE! There is no value to be had!"

Here's the thing: As I mentioned before, I'm heading to Ireland in a couple of weeks for my wife and I's 20th anniversary. Talking with folks from there, I get the impression that there is "legal" and then there is "what do you need that for..." in those parts. My job as a tourist isn't to flaunt the technical law of the land or act like a total American. If knives are kinda frowned upon there, then I am going to roll with what doesn't upsets the folks so gracious to let me see their beautiful country. I'm actually taking three Victorinox products with me in our checked luggage. A Serrated Spartan, a Jetsetter, and this Companion Slim. My wife always keeps a Serrated Spartan in our checked luggage. It's just our little universal knife. She likes having the serrations in case we need it for food prep or whatever, and the cork screw is nice to have if we find a bottle of wine. So it just stays there. I have been carrying a Jetsetter for a couple of months now...because I'm lazy :P My daughter wanted to buy her boyfriend a little companion sized knife for his birthday. I had mentioned getting the Jetsetter because then it would be allowed at school on his keys, but after I bought it, she decided that he would like the Rally better...so I just kept the jetsetter to always have a few tools on me;) This new bladeless one is just going to be my pocket companion for the week while I am there. I doubt I will keep my keys with me, so the Jetsetter will remain at the house with the Spartan. This tool will be used for cutting off tags of stuff we buy or trimming threads or generally just poking around on things if we are out in nature and need to do so. Just a basic set of tools that make me feel a bit more prepared. Certainly more than I need.

At the end of the day, a pocket knife is mostly a totem for a lot of us a lot of the time, especially for those of us just sightseeing. Having a little solid slab of aluminum and steel in my pocket feels good. Having a small minimal set of tools just makes me feel more prepared. Being able to carry this with me without potentially running afoul of the laws (although I'm still not going to whip this out in public if I can help it :P ) The package opener is a little silly and I probably won't use it much, but I honestly think it makes more sense than a can opener in 2025. Besides, this trip is kind of a "touch the dirt" trip for my wife and I. We aren't there to fight the crowds in Dublin. Just a week where the two of us can spend several days walking the hills that our people came from generations ago. We don't need much in the way of equipment beyond good shoes, a few layers for the weather, and her camera. Honestly, it might feel kinda nice to pare everything down to the most basic of basics.

I will report back and eat crow should I find this tool to be a complete dud ;)
 
Steely_Gunz said:
Well despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth, I have a Companion Slim coming via DLT Trading by the first of the week. "Fool!, FOOL!" you say, "It is Swiss Army KNIFE! There is no value to be had!"

Here's the thing: As I mentioned before, I'm heading to Ireland in a couple of weeks for my wife and I's 20th anniversary. Talking with folks from there, I get the impression that there is "legal" and then there is "what do you need that for..." in those parts. My job as a tourist isn't to flaunt the technical law of the land or act like a total American. If knives are kinda frowned upon there, then I am going to roll with what doesn't upsets the folks so gracious to let me see their beautiful country. I'm actually taking three Victorinox products with me in our checked luggage. A Serrated Spartan, a Jetsetter, and this Companion Slim. My wife always keeps a Serrated Spartan in our checked luggage. It's just our little universal knife. She likes having the serrations in case we need it for food prep or whatever, and the cork screw is nice to have if we find a bottle of wine. So it just stays there. I have been carrying a Jetsetter for a couple of months now...because I'm lazy :P My daughter wanted to buy her boyfriend a little companion sized knife for his birthday. I had mentioned getting the Jetsetter because then it would be allowed at school on his keys, but after I bought it, she decided that he would like the Rally better...so I just kept the jetsetter to always have a few tools on me;) This new bladeless one is just going to be my pocket companion for the week while I am there. I doubt I will keep my keys with me, so the Jetsetter will remain at the house with the Spartan. This tool will be used for cutting off tags of stuff we buy or trimming threads or generally just poking around on things if we are out in nature and need to do so. Just a basic set of tools that make me feel a bit more prepared. Certainly more than I need.

At the end of the day, a pocket knife is mostly a totem for a lot of us a lot of the time, especially for those of us just sightseeing. Having a little solid slab of aluminum and steel in my pocket feels good. Having a small minimal set of tools just makes me feel more prepared. Being able to carry this with me without potentially running afoul of the laws (although I'm still not going to whip this out in public if I can help it :P ) The package opener is a little silly and I probably won't use it much, but I honestly think it makes more sense than a can opener in 2025. Besides, this trip is kind of a "touch the dirt" trip for my wife and I. We aren't there to fight the crowds in Dublin. Just a week where the two of us can spend several days walking the hills that our people came from generations ago. We don't need much in the way of equipment beyond good shoes, a few layers for the weather, and her camera. Honestly, it might feel kinda nice to pare everything down to the most basic of basics.

I will report back and eat crow should I find this tool to be a complete dud ;)
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I can see the utility in the Companion slim and Jetsetter. I wouldn’t risk my serrated Spartan on the slim chance it got swiped from my bag, but that’s just me. I like the new Alox version of the Jetsetter( cant think of its name) and if I really trusted TSA to do the right thing I’d toss it on my keys and forget about it on those times I don’t check a bag. Having some utility goes a long way. Hope you have a phenomenal trip!
 
Steely_Gunz said:
Well despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth, I have a Companion Slim coming via DLT Trading by the first of the week. "Fool!, FOOL!" you say, "It is Swiss Army KNIFE! There is no value to be had!"

Here's the thing: As I mentioned before, I'm heading to Ireland in a couple of weeks for my wife and I's 20th anniversary. Talking with folks from there, I get the impression that there is "legal" and then there is "what do you need that for..." in those parts. My job as a tourist isn't to flaunt the technical law of the land or act like a total American. If knives are kinda frowned upon there, then I am going to roll with what doesn't upsets the folks so gracious to let me see their beautiful country. I'm actually taking three Victorinox products with me in our checked luggage. A Serrated Spartan, a Jetsetter, and this Companion Slim. My wife always keeps a Serrated Spartan in our checked luggage. It's just our little universal knife. She likes having the serrations in case we need it for food prep or whatever, and the cork screw is nice to have if we find a bottle of wine. So it just stays there. I have been carrying a Jetsetter for a couple of months now...because I'm lazy :P My daughter wanted to buy her boyfriend a little companion sized knife for his birthday. I had mentioned getting the Jetsetter because then it would be allowed at school on his keys, but after I bought it, she decided that he would like the Rally better...so I just kept the jetsetter to always have a few tools on me;) This new bladeless one is just going to be my pocket companion for the week while I am there. I doubt I will keep my keys with me, so the Jetsetter will remain at the house with the Spartan. This tool will be used for cutting off tags of stuff we buy or trimming threads or generally just poking around on things if we are out in nature and need to do so. Just a basic set of tools that make me feel a bit more prepared. Certainly more than I need.

At the end of the day, a pocket knife is mostly a totem for a lot of us a lot of the time, especially for those of us just sightseeing. Having a little solid slab of aluminum and steel in my pocket feels good. Having a small minimal set of tools just makes me feel more prepared. Being able to carry this with me without potentially running afoul of the laws (although I'm still not going to whip this out in public if I can help it :P ) The package opener is a little silly and I probably won't use it much, but I honestly think it makes more sense than a can opener in 2025. Besides, this trip is kind of a "touch the dirt" trip for my wife and I. We aren't there to fight the crowds in Dublin. Just a week where the two of us can spend several days walking the hills that our people came from generations ago. We don't need much in the way of equipment beyond good shoes, a few layers for the weather, and her camera. Honestly, it might feel kinda nice to pare everything down to the most basic of basics.

I will report back and eat crow should I find this tool to be a complete dud ;)
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The sak scissors are actually pretty "knifey" and pretty capable as scissors despite the size' I think you might be ok with the jetsetter and/or rally on your trip
 
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So while the "blade less" SAK may not have a pointy knife, I can without hesitation tell you that this lil sumbitch is SHARP 😲. While not shaving sharp, it is every bit minute of boxcutter. The serrated package/tape ripper works well, but the sharp edge forward of it just under the Philips driver is keen enough that there is no way I would chance it in carry on luggage.

However, if you are looking for something that can do 85% of what the pen blade on a SAK can do without raising too many eyebrows, this is actually a pretty useful tool.
 
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So while the "blade less" SAK may not have a pointy knife, I can without hesitation tell you that this lil sumbitch is SHARP 😲. While not shaving sharp, it is every bit minute of boxcutter. The serrated package/tape ripper works well, but the sharp edge forward of it just under the Philips driver is keen enough that there is no way I would chance it in carry on luggage.

However, if you are looking for something that can do 85% of what the pen blade on a SAK can do without raising too many eyebrows, this is actually a pretty useful tool.
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That was my opinion as well. It’s sharp enough I wouldn’t trust using the Philips driver on it. If it closes on you, you’re in for a nasty cut.
 
You would have to be pretty careful with it, but I feel the trade off works OK for what it offers, but you do have to keep your fingers back, for sure.
 
Steely_Gunz said:
You would have to be pretty careful with it, but I feel the trade off works OK for what it offers, but you do have to keep your fingers back, for sure.
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I guess you could choke up on the tang if using as a screwdriver to help reduce the risk of closure. Still, sharpened edge, slip joint, used as a driver... just sets off alarm bells from learning how to properly use a slip join the hard way.
 
You know reading this thread has made me realize that even though I carry a Swiss Army Knife daily, I hardly ever use the knife blade. I usually have a knife that I carry specifically for the blade and use the SAK only for the tools.
 
I would like to offer some perspective:Here in Colombia, carrying a knife with a blade length over 6cm without requiring it for work- related purposes is not allowed. While a SAK will fall below that threshold, any police officer that takes a liking to your knife might decide to measure creatively from the pivot.

Since SAKs are expensive here ( Think USD value +30%) i have opted for a Victorinox Companion slim.

Maybe its not as capable as a Compact, but eases the ambiguity regarding blade length.
 
OverhangEnthusiast said:
I would like to offer some perspective:Here in Colombia, carrying a knife with a blade length over 6cm without requiring it for work- related purposes is not allowed. While a SAK will fall below that threshold, any police officer that takes a liking to your knife might decide to measure creatively from the pivot.

Since SAKs are expensive here ( Think USD value +30%) i have opted for a Victorinox Companion slim.

Maybe its not as capable as a Compact, but eases the ambiguity regarding blade length.
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This is 100% why I bought mine. Luckily for me, it doesn't have to be used often. It's literally for times when I am going somewhere that blades of any length are an issue. I don't travel that much, but an Alox SAK will last for generations with minimal care. Even if I only go to Europe every 5-10 years, it's a handy tool to keep in my luggage. Mostly for the scissors, but having a couple of screw drivers and tool to rip stuff open isn't bad either.
 
I’m in the UK and always carry a knife. As long as the blade is under 3” and non locking you should be ok. EXCEPT on our trains. The British Transport Police may comply with different rules but they are hot on knives of any type. A retired Military man was arrested for carrying, or attempting to carry a Swiss Card on a train a few years ago. This may be because the knife is classed as a fixed blade = illegal.
 
WillbertR said:
I’m in the UK and always carry a knife. As long as the blade is under 3” and non locking you should be ok. EXCEPT on our trains. The British Transport Police may comply with different rules but they are hot on knives of any type. A retired Military man was arrested for carrying, or attempting to carry a Swiss Card on a train a few years ago. This may be because the knife is classed as a fixed blade = illegal.
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This is good information and thank you. One of the main reasons I got this bladeless model was to hedge my bets and mind my manners while in areas where my affinity for knives is not shared by the local community. Could a police officer still have an issue with the little cutter on this model? Yeah and that's fine. I would hope it's not a legal offense. You would have to be pretty committed to harming someone with it in more than a superficial way.

I'm sure I can get a long just fine with a few tools, and honestly when I am being a tourist, I don't NEED a knife for anything more than opening a package. I try to do very much as the Romans do when I travel despite missing my much hardier OTF auto ;)
 
When I travel abroad I pack a SAK of one sort or another into my checked luggage. I don’t carry it around though, it’s strictly used in my cabin or hotel room.
 
Daniel L said:
A TSA agent is not going to bother to tell the difference between a SAK with a blade and a SAK with no blade.
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Exactly. Most people will do the bare minimum of work required and when given a choice between tossing it in a bin to be sold on GovDeals and taking the time to thoroughly inspect the item it's going in the bin every time.
They're understaffed and in a high stress job dealing with already irritated people. They don't want you standing in front of them any longer than you have to be.
 
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