Vic Deluxe Tinker

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I have an older Vic Deluxe Tinker still in the original box. This knife does not have the "hook" on it. Does anyone know what year they started including the "hook" on the Deluxe Tinker? Thanks for your help.
 
Vincent, you appear to be the SAK authority here.

Can you tell me what year the Swiss Champ knife was introduced? I think it was some time during the mid-80's.

Proir to the release of the Swiss Champ I believe the largest SAK knife was called the Champion which was the Swiss Champ without pliers? I can't seem to find this SAK anywhere. Has it been discontinued and if so do you know when it was last produced.

Thanks.
 
gatch said:
Can you tell me what year the Swiss Champ knife was introduced? I think it was some time during the mid-80's.
Proir to the release of the Swiss Champ I believe the largest SAK knife was called the Champion which was the Swiss Champ without pliers? I can't seem to find this SAK anywhere. Has it been discontinued and if so do you know when it was last produced.
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The SwissChamp came out about when the pliers were introduced - 1986.

I wrote to Victorinox at the beginning of 1993 to ask about the Champion model and they said it was still being produced then - although I hadn't seen it for some time by then.

The Champion isn't quite just the SwissChamp without the pliers, as the SwissChamp even its early form added quite a few features over the Champion -
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The Champion Plus was available for a short while at Wal-Mart - and this was a SwissChamp without the Pliers - the "plus" designation meant it (in this case) had the ballPen, Pin in the handles as well as the mini-screwdriver in the corkscrew -"plus" the extra tools on the back of the backprings as on the SwissChamp - over the original Champion.

One might still be able to get the Champion Plus as a closeout from Wal-Mart - I heard some got it for as low as $18 - now that's a bargain.......


Just as some trivia - the original Champion was the SAK in the permanent collection of MoMA - Museum of Modern Art - Architecture and Design Dept; as well as the State Museum of Fine Arts in Munich.
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Vincent, thanks for your reply.

I picked up a Swiss Champ in 1987 when I was on holiday to replace my much abused Explorer. It does not have the hook or the pin.
 
UnknownVT said:
The Champion Plus was available for a short while at Wal-Mart - and this was a SwissChamp without the Pliers - the "plus" designation meant it (in this case) had the ballPen, Pin in the handles as well as the mini-screwdriver in the corkscrew -"plus" the extra tools on the back of the backprings as on the SwissChamp - over the original Champion.

One might still be able to get the Champion Plus as a closeout from Wal-Mart - I heard some got it for as low as $18 - now that's a bargain.......
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I got the Champion Plus last summer at Wal Mart for $15!! They only had two left and I don't know why I didn't buy them both :mad: Since I usually also carry one of my Leatherman tools (because the pliers are so much better), this was the perfect EDC SAK for me.
 
UnknownVT said:
The multi-purpose hook and the pin were both introduced in 1991

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Vincent
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Vincent, when I was in the Swissarmy shop in the city they had a product cataloge (I asked if they had copies to give out to customers, they didn't :( ) that had a time line for major knife tool releases. From what I can remember:

1986 SwissChamp
1998 SwissTool
1999 CyberTool
2005 SwissTool Spirit

Thanks
 
I recently got in a trade a similiar Vic' Deluxe Tinker, without hook, but it has some oddities about it.

It came in the new current silver and red box, the shield is on the opposite side as normal, and the box is labeled:

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DELUX TINKER WOH RED

I assume the WOH means without hook, which implies it was made after the hook was added, otherwise why need to say that it is without it?
 
The Last Confederate said:
I assume the WOH means without hook, which implies it was made after the hook was added, otherwise why need to say that it is without it?
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Makes sense to me. Sure, the Victorinox factory stopped making the model without the hook one day, and the next started making them with the hook, but most folks don't buy them from the factory.

So for a while there, distributors and retailers still had the old model in stock, as well as the new ones from Vic. Obviously they'd expect buyers to have a preference for with-hook or without-hook; the distributors no doubt marked the old stock so that customers would know they were getting what they wanted.

Once the old stock was depleted, they wouldn't need the make the distinction, so the marking was dropped.
 
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