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Victorinox Kitchen Knives

Discussion in 'Kitchen Cutlery & Tools' started by jetsrb32, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. jetsrb32

    jetsrb32

    553
    Jun 4, 2008
    Hi Everyone,

    Does anyone have experience using Victorinox Kitchen Knives (chef knives,santukos, slicers etc)?
    If so what are your thoughts (value, durability, comfort etc)?

    Thanks :thumbup::thumbup:

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    (These have Fibrox handles)
     
  2. Benuser

    Benuser

    222
    Nov 19, 2010
    Great stuff, excellent value. Great geometry and profile, easy sharpening. Quite soft, so will need steeling with the finest steel you may find, or a fine ceramic rod. Sharpening with a medium coarse stone (J400-800), strop and deburr with ceramic rod or medium stone (J1000-2000).

    Get the ones with rosewood handles.
     
  3. gregorio

    gregorio

    Nov 9, 2007
    Probably the best value for the money you can find. I found the blade on the chef knife to be thinner than most I am used to but it has held up fine.
     
  4. Bernoulli

    Bernoulli

    354
    Jun 15, 2007
    What Gregorio said. Not the best, but the best for the money. Certainly serviceable.
     
  5. oivind_dahle

    oivind_dahle

    174
    May 16, 2011
    They are ok :)
    If you can, you should rehandle them:

    http://darkhoek.blogspot.no/2011/05/pimp-my-knife-victorinox-refurbishment.html

    I have rehandlet like 5 of them. For main knife however, I would go with a Gyuto. I prefer a 225 in length, but then you might need to go custom.
    210 Torjo DP is a lof for the money. Its stainless, but you could choose to go for carbon or a sanmai with carbon core and stainless clad?

    If you want to have one of the best knives you should try marko:
    http://darkhoek.blogspot.no/2012/04/marko-tsourkan-designs-240-mm-wa-gyuto.html

    Best bang for the bucks, if you want something really really great .)
     
  6. KSV02

    KSV02

    74
    Mar 7, 2012
    Great entry level knives.... Good for a Pro kitchen.
     
  7. Free2game

    Free2game Banned BANNED

    210
    Jan 31, 2011
    I'm curious, are these made of the same stuff SAKs are made of?
     
  8. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Bingo. And one of the things I LOVE about the chef's knife is how thin it is. Glides right through carrots and other firm targets (cutting a watermelon is a breeze!)
     
  9. Fanglekai

    Fanglekai

    Jan 7, 2007
    You can't do better for $25. I doubt you'd find anything better under $100 unless you get something like a Shun on sale or a lucky score on the exchange. The 8'' chefs knife is easy to sharpen, holds its edge well enough, and it's pretty comfortable in hand. It doesn't weigh a lot and it's not super thick, but I dislike German style thick and heavy chefs knives, so that's personal preference. If you aren't a pro chef or don't have excellent knife handling skills I really doubt you'd gain much from more expensive kitchen knives. I use an Opinel paring knife in carbon steel and the 8'' Vic chefs knife. I like to cook and they're more than adequate for what I do.
     
  10. bluntcut

    bluntcut KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Apr 28, 2012
    I gave my 12" scimeter Forschner/Victorinox away and replaced with 14" Kin Lih R2 made in TW, cost me 10 usd in San Jose, CA. After freshly sharpened the R2 can slice newsprint cross grain, where the scimeter never able to do. I've no idea what steel the R2 uses but it seem harder and has better edge retention than the scimeter. R2 profile along the line of a super stretched nakiri (weird).

    I bought this R2 out of curiousity, it became a surprise slicer, so I'll mod it into a 12" gyuto or tall suji.
     
  11. jetsrb32

    jetsrb32

    553
    Jun 4, 2008
    Thanks everyone :thumbup::thumbup:
     
  12. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Speaking of Opinel they also make a beautiful chef's knife with spot-on geometry and a full-height shallow convex grind. The thing's like a sharpened feather.
     
  13. Fanglekai

    Fanglekai

    Jan 7, 2007
    That 118 looks very nice. I'll have to get one in the future.
     
  14. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    I think it's one of my favorite "budget" chef's knives now. I plan on getting my sister one--she's a culinary enthusiast and learned how to take care of knives from me growing up. Unfortunately my folks haven't learned in the same way so I always feel bad for her using kitchen knives with dulled edges. About time she has one to call her own.
     
  15. Fanglekai

    Fanglekai

    Jan 7, 2007
    It looks like it's just begging for a custom burl wood handle. 12c27 with a good heat treat in thin stock would make for a wicked chefs knife. That one is on my list now. I have no use for ridiculously expensive chefs knives, just budget, quality ones.
     
  16. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Extend that statement to knives in general and that's my whole philosophy. With any quality good you reach a point of diminishing returns. Almost all of my purchases are in the "most bang for your buck" range of the curve.
     
  17. TomTheButcher

    TomTheButcher

    84
    Nov 8, 2010
    I have that exact same set sitting on my kitchen counter. It's also the same brand most meat cutters use, including myself. For the price they are hard to beat. I love mine and if I had to buy again for some reason I would get the same thing.
     
  18. Blunt Forged Edge

    Blunt Forged Edge

    591
    May 15, 2012
    Pretty much the same thoughts as with those who favor them. I'm one happy and satisfied owner!
     
  19. OrdnanceBubbaUSMC

    OrdnanceBubbaUSMC

    May 23, 2004
    My favorite kitchen knives...latest set for new house was 6 knives for $76 - 3 paring knives, 4 1/2" utility, 8" chef, and 10 1/4" bread.
    They go toe to toe or often best competition costing 4-10x the price.

    For all knives I look for great design with good enough materials over utmost edge retention.
    Fibrox handles are very comfy and are more hygienic and safe (no slip with oil, blood, soapy water, etc.) than traditional Japanese or European handles.

    Believe blade stock is the same as used in their folders and the $100++ Wusthof, Henckels, and Messermeister knives.
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2012
  20. bluntcut

    bluntcut KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Apr 28, 2012
    Does $25 Victorinox 10 times better than a $2.5 Kiwi?
    Does $500 Murray Carter 20x better than $25 Victorinox?
    No and no.

    It seems that performance is Logarithmic of price, so the bang/buck sweet range depend job function. Many pros/knuts spend their $ on high-end/custom knives because they know & expect alot more out of their knives.
     

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