VIDEO: Emerson CQC-13 Hard Use Test

pagey1973 said:
The reason I ask is I feel the serrations and the chisel would be better served ground on the opposite side of the blade.
I think if the grind was reversed the tendency would be for the blade to bite deeper for a "Whittling" stroke, as opposed to appearing to slide abit and not find..um... grip(?) as in the video. As a Righty... like you.

As a Lefty, Emerson's must rock?.

But you gotta test 'em how they come.:thumbup:



My girlfriend managed to break the tip of my first 13 ....TWICE!!
Well not twice, The first time she cut through rubber matting and managed to slice straight through into a brick wall rolling the tip.
5 min on the stones fixed that.
Less than a week later, she snapped it good and propper prying the rubber seal into a fly-screen for a window.:grumpy:
17 degree's both sides on a Lansky and I've fixed all my problems with it, granted, It's about 3mm shorter than normal and I've had to drop the tip a bit to meet the belly.

My experience with it didn't stop me buying a second one(safe queen/replacement user), And l'll shell out for a stonewashed and swedged version too in the future probably.

Now all I need is for someone to make me a drop on Ti-Framelock for them:grumpy:


:p
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My wife has quite a history for tip breaking my pocket carry knives also and all around general knife abuse too for that matter. I can't hardly keep a sharp knife in the kitchen thanks to her and her glass cutting boards or just flat out using a plate as her cutting surface. This is why I usually buy her cheap knives and Ginsu life sharp stuff. One of her favorites in the kitchen is that old Hai Hacho from Cold Steel, but then that would only be because it keeps cutting even with no tip! :D I bought her a nice knife once. A Spyderco Poliwog which she promptly abused to no end. Its pretty sad looking these days.

Anyway, sorry to drift off topic a bit.

The 13 is a great model. I love the looks of it but if I had my wish come true there would be a mini 13 available from EKI for those of us that really don't want all that much knife on our person. Something exactly the same with a 3" or less blade and still ample handle would be great! Then I may actually get one but as it is it would never be much of a user for me.

STR
 
Thanks for your work in all your testing, Jim. For some reason I get more valid information from your testing vs. all the others. :thumbup:
 
MORIMOTOM said:
the emerson "lefty" grind is done purely for aesthetic reasons. it puts the logo and primary bevel on the same side.
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Chalk up another win for marketing eh :(
I don't suppose it really matters that much in real world use.
More of a personal preferance.

STR said:
My wife has quite a history for tip breaking my pocket carry knives also and all around general knife abuse too for that matter. I can't hardly keep a sharp knife in the kitchen thanks to her and her glass cutting boards or just flat out using a plate as her cutting surface. This is why I usually buy her cheap knives and Ginsu life sharp stuff. One of her favorites in the kitchen is that old Hai Hacho from Cold Steel, but then that would only be because it keeps cutting even with no tip! :D I bought her a nice knife once. A Spyderco Poliwog which she promptly abused to no end. Its pretty sad looking these days.

Anyway, sorry to drift off topic a bit.

The 13 is a great model. I love the looks of it but if I had my wish come true there would be a mini 13 available from EKI for those of us that really don't want all that much knife on our person. Something exactly the same with a 3" or less blade and still ample handle would be great! Then I may actually get one but as it is it would never be much of a user for me.

STR
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That's what I love about this forum STR, everyones different :thumbup:
If I had my wish Emerson would put out Super 13 like the comander and 8.
About 4.25" or close to.

:)
 
pagey1973 said:
Chalk up another win for marketing eh :(
I don't suppose it really matters that much in real world use.
More of a personal preferance.



That's what I love about this forum STR, everyones different :thumbup:
If I had my wish Emerson would put out Super 13 like the comander and 8.
About 4.25" or close to.

:)
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i don't know if i'd call it marketing. rather that ernie prefers the look of the grind on the left side of the spine.

as far as the chisel grinds go, i haven't noticed a difference between knives ground on one side versus the other. but i only have two, a 7 and a kerambit, with the true chisel.
 
I think it simply looks better for demo reasons when displaying the knives to have the grind where it is. I think the logic behind which side the grind is on is all about how they look when taking photographs of them for listing them in his web site or on others web sites to sell them personally and has nothing to do with function or personal preference. In a way it is about sales though because it would be a harder sell to not show the grind in an add and newbies would simply say look at this thing, it doesn't even have a grind on it!.

I doubt the Emersons would do as well if all folks saw was the flat untouched side in an add had the grind been put on the opposite side. I mean think about it. Ernie would not be able to just show the knife in one simple picture on his web site if the grind was only on one side and it was the opposite side displayed in the adds. So, it would mean double work, double time, and double pictures of every knife for every photo session, upload session and so on to list them on every add. Imagine the CQC7 B or other chisel grind knives and what it would like if the photo for the add was the flat of the blade on the presentation side of the folder. If you notice Ernie hardly ever shows one of the chisel grind knives on the clip side. Wonder why.
 
Indeed.... chisel grinds! :rolleyes:

STR said:
I think it simply looks better for demo reasons when displaying the knives to have the grind where it is. I think the logic behind which side the grind is on is all about how they look when taking photographs of them for listing them in his web site or on others web sites to sell them personally and has nothing to do with function or personal preference. In a way it is about sales though because it would be a harder sell to not show the grind in an add and newbies would simply say look at this thing, it doesn't even have a grind on it!.

I doubt the Emersons would do as well if all folks saw was the flat untouched side in an add had the grind been put on the opposite side. I mean think about it. Ernie would not be able to just show the knife in one simple picture on his web site if the grind was only on one side and it was the opposite side displayed in the adds. So, it would mean double work, double time, and double pictures of every knife for every photo session, upload session and so on to list them on every add. Imagine the CQC7 B or other chisel grind knives and what it would like if the photo for the add was the flat of the blade on the presentation side of the folder. If you notice Ernie hardly ever shows one of the chisel grind knives on the clip side. Wonder why.
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Thanks for the test, stone dropped from my heart that the 13 survived the hard use:) Was it a thick lock version?? 2009-2010??
 
It is a great review because people's favorite knife passed. :thumbup:
I wonder why people make a lot of excuses and deny the validity of the tests when their knives fail. :D:D:D
 
Zozo*HC* said:
wowowowwowww with the thin ti lock side:) im impressed:)
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yep. thin liners and lock.

also the primary grind is probably 5-7 degrees more acute than the factory grind.

pivot was put in place with blue loctite, as are all my emersons.
 
Maybe I won't get rid of my 2006 CQC-10 afterall. I was doubting it because
you can try to close it with the lock engaged and the liner lock flexes
quite a bit. It hasn't slipped though, I have spine wacked it pretty good..;)
 
I had that Emerson 13 here today to look it over good and although you can tell its taken some beating its in good shape really. The point on that knife and the geometry of the blade surprised me. I had not seen one in so long that I'd forgotten just how thick it was left on the tip. Its actually quite a stout knife! It isn't any wonder it waltzed right through that test like you would expect it to. Jim's test really is not all that abusive or out of line for a knife that is supposed to be designed to take it. I think we are seeing that in the testing. If nothing else his test is bringing out the truth about which ones walk the walk and which ones just talk the talk. :thumbup:

STR
 
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