*VIDEO* Ever used a cheap sharpener then shaved your face with the knife?...? I have

[RedLynx]

I'd gladly film a full length clip however, I'm sure that would take some time. About the only knife I have dull right now is my 0550 ZT.

Now you have a good excuse to give at least one knife a good hard use.

Also it's really cool you are EDC'ing such a small knife (if I remember the specs of that Monogram correctly. You look like the kinda dude who should be carrying a much beefier knife, and I mean that in the best way. It's cool you enjoy this smaller one.

Edit: Just realized it was a Monogram Trident, which is sizeable. For some reason I saw Monogram and was confusing it with something tiny, like the SOG Micron or something, my bad.

 

[Gingerman]

I have sharpened Plumb axes with a basted file and a carbarundum oil stone and speed them on a belt using toothpaste and then shaved with them. It's the steel, I believe, more than the method. Impresses the cosa too.

 

[Reignman]

Now you have a good excuse to give at least one knife a good hard use.

Also it's really cool you are EDC'ing such a small knife (if I remember the specs of that Monogram correctly. You look like the kinda dude who should be carrying a much beefier knife, and I mean that in the best way. It's cool you enjoy this smaller one.

Edit: Just realized it was a Monogram Trident, which is sizeable. For some reason I saw Monogram and was confusing it with something tiny, like the SOG Micron or something, my bad.

Lol, maybe a sog bluto lol...

I carry all kinds but yea, usually Strider SMF / Para 2 / Microtech Socom's but I love the monogram for the "Wow what is that" factor.

 

[RedLynx]

I've wanted to add a Microtech, pretty much any, to my collection for awhile but it probably ain't ever gonna happen.

If I remember correctly the Socom isn't produced any longer, nice to hear you have one.

Lol, maybe a sog bluto lol...

I carry all kinds but yea, usually Strider SMF / Para 2 / Microtech Socom's but I love the monogram for the "Wow what is that" factor.

 

[dkb45]

Lol, maybe a sog bluto lol...

I carry all kinds but yea, usually Strider SMF / Para 2 / Microtech Socom's but I love the monogram for the "Wow what is that" factor.

Hey the Bluto is an adorable little knife. It looks like it wants to grow up and be a real knife some day. It is, to date, the least intimidating knife I have ever handled. If it didn't have the recurve I would have never gotten rid of it.

 

[Reignman]

I've wanted to add a Microtech, pretty much any, to my collection for awhile but it probably ain't ever gonna happen.

If I remember correctly the Socom isn't produced any longer, nice to hear you have one.

Yea, I definitely caught the microtech bug in a big way...... One isn't entirely accurate.. I have a "Few" ( and the diminished bank account to prove it.)

Hey the Bluto is an adorable little knife. It looks like it wants to grow up and be a real knife some day. It is, to date, the least intimidating knife I have ever handled. If it didn't have the recurve I would have never gotten rid of it.

LOL thats easily the best explanation of that knife ever. It honestly was a very well designed knife.

 

[KnottyEagle]

The huge advantage a system like the Wicked Edge brings is repeatibility and consistency. I also imagine I can reprofile a knife a lot faster with the Wicked Edge than on a bench stone.

 

[Reignman]

The huge advantage a system like the Wicked Edge brings is repeatibility and consistency. I also imagine I can reprofile a knife a lot faster with the Wicked Edge than on a bench stone.

I'd disagree about the speed of reprofiling vs a bench stone... As for consistency of coarse, anyone could use them and have a consistent angle and produce serious edges, huge plus.

 

[jmclfrsh]

Great thread and vid, Reignman. Truly showed where "the rubber meets the road."

Loved the comment about your hands and a rock, too. I've been using a Sharpmaker but have a couple of stones and have been wanting to get a strop, this thread of yours convinced me to pull the trigger on them and get some finer stones as well.

Time to teach myself to get an edge the old fashioned way. Just not starting with a Sebenza!

 

[KnottyEagle]

I'd disagree about the speed of reprofiling vs a bench stone... As for consistency of coarse, anyone could use them and have a consistent angle and produce serious edges, huge plus.

That's why I said "imagine". I really don't know. I've never freehand sharpened. I disagree about anyone having and maintaining a consistent angle. Your hand is naturally not stable and I don't see it being stable in the motion of sharpening, especially for long lengths of time.

 

[dkb45]

That's why I said "imagine". I really don't know. I've never freehand sharpened. I disagree about anyone having and maintaining a consistent angle. Your hand is naturally not stable and I don't see it being stable in the motion of sharpening, especially for long lengths of time.

After one has sharpened for long enough, your hand settles into a consistent range, with Tue exact angle depending on the day. I have freehand sharpened a nearly perfect bevel, and also thought I was consistent and the variation between the sides was nearly 5°. Really, a precision system is only a major benefit to somebody who either isn't good at, or doesn't trust their hands to be consistent, or is completely anal and must have perfect symmetry. Mankind made it for thousands of years with freehanded and eyeballed edges, no reason we suddenly can't live with it now.

 

[Freman Bloodglaive]

Remember in the end a sharp edge is just one where the blade has narrowed to a line rather than a plane and has a minimum of roughness. You might not get an exact 15° per side, but you can still make a knife really sharp with a stone and leather.

 

[Monofletch]

I'll admit I have screwed up a LOT of edges before I learned how to properly use a stone. The biggest mistake is pressure. Let the stone do the work. Also- watch some strppping videos on youtube.

 

[Bighaze51]

Next step, one of these.

Your welcome,

 

[Reignman]

That's why I said "imagine". I really don't know. I've never freehand sharpened. I disagree about anyone having and maintaining a consistent angle. Your hand is naturally not stable and I don't see it being stable in the motion of sharpening, especially for long lengths of time.

I understand where you're coming from however, I've had students ask me about "muscle memory" many times... and most are blown away when they simply spin me around and point my torso in the general direction of a steel mansized target 10 yards away and simply using muscle memory I draw my weapon and rip a few off....I hear "Ting" everytime. Did I mention I was blindfolded?........ Seriously, the human body does NOT deserve the credit it is owed. If you train it will come.

After one has sharpened for long enough, your hand settles into a consistent range, with Tue exact angle depending on the day. I have freehand sharpened a nearly perfect bevel, and also thought I was consistent and the variation between the sides was nearly 5°. Really, a precision system is only a major benefit to somebody who either isn't good at, or doesn't trust their hands to be consistent, or is completely anal and must have perfect symmetry. Mankind made it for thousands of years with freehanded and eyeballed edges, no reason we suddenly can't live with it now.

very well said!

Remember in the end a sharp edge is just one where the blade has narrowed to a line rather than a plane and has a minimum of roughness. You might not get an exact 15° per side, but you can still make a knife really sharp with a stone and leather.

Absolutely right, I'm certain the "systems" can guide perfectly but I'm sorry... There's something to be said in the event of a component failure, you're at the mercy of not knowing a damn thing about sharpening "in your environment" as oppose to with a complex tool.

I'll admit I have screwed up a LOT of edges before I learned how to properly use a stone. The biggest mistake is pressure. Let the stone do the work. Also- watch some strppping videos on youtube.

Pressure and me have fought more than once on the bench stone, I'm still VERY novice in my methods however, I have been doing a much better job letting the tools do the work and trusting the results throughout the process instead of what I think should/will work.

Next step, one of these.

Your welcome,

Dude, don't even think I haven't checked those out since making this video!!!!!! Murray Carter makes some legit ones.

 

[kimengbk]

The synthetic stones I have are Miyabi Toishi Pro in 3000 and 10000. I actually got them for 40$ a piece at Homegoods about a year ago. Knowing that store, you probably wont ever see them there again. I love those two though, wide enough to do the straight razor easily and the fact I paid 80$ for them is just icing on the cake.

http://www.zwillingonline.com/sharpening.html

 

[Reignman]

The synthetic stones I have are Miyabi Toishi Pro in 3000 and 10000. I actually got them for 40$ a piece at Homegoods about a year ago. Knowing that store, you probably wont ever see them there again. I love those two though, wide enough to do the straight razor easily and the fact I paid 80$ for them is just icing on the cake.

http://www.zwillingonline.com/sharpening.html

What is homegoods?

 

[dkb45]

What is homegoods?

If it is the store I am thinking of, it is one of the stores in the TJ Max family. They primarily deal with kitchen stuff, decorations, and miscellaneous house stuff. All of the Homegoods I have seen were also a full TJ Max.

 

[Reignman]

If it is the store I am thinking of, it is one of the stores in the TJ Max family. They primarily deal with kitchen stuff, decorations, and miscellaneous house stuff. All of the Homegoods I have seen were also a full TJ Max.

that would of been a heck of a find!!!