Vista or XP?

My new one , as all new ones are,came with Vista. I would not go backwards .Too many new things may depend on Vista and of course the new computers are set up for Vista. I would not , however, install Vista on an older computer as I have heard too many problems from those that have. Though my needs are simple , Vista has workd fine.
 
For the love of God do not go with the Vista option . . . Until SP1 (service pack 1) is available, even then I'd recommend XP.

Vista needs to go a long way before I'd install it.
 
I should mention, that I pretty much only use my PC for web surfing and some digital photo stuff.

I am trying to decide between upgrading my current one or buying a new one.

My current PC has:

Celeron 1.7Ghz.
128MB of ram
40 GB HD

Thinking of boosting the RAM to 1024MB and 160GB HD, but am not sure if staying with a 1.7Ghz. Processor would make it worth it, or should I just buy a new PC???

PS, I really do not want to go to Vista just yet, I try to never use Version 1 of anything Microsoft......
PPS, I am not a gamer and so I don't know that I need the massive PC power that games require.
 
to The Last Confederate

Do you FEEL the need to upgrade your PC? Any apps running unpleasantly slow, or some possibly useful piece of soft won't run?

If you don't -- don't bother with upgrades for upgrades' sake. Change HDD to something bigger (not that expensive and nearly always useful), MAYBE add some RAM (~512 Megs - 1 GB would be enough) and be happy!

No need do buy a new machine now "Just in case". When the need for added power would arise (IF it would arise) -- you'll get far more Ghz's and GBs for a buck then now.
 
I am using Vista at work , to my dismay which was first delight.

At first Vista is really cool , lots of bells and whistles , lots of visuals , many ways to customize your experience and then the complications start...... That are just not worth the trouble.

XP worked fine for me and continue to work fine at home.

I would stick to what works and what your used to unless you enjoy new and challenging things.
 
I've been using ubuntu linux since february, I installed as a dual boot with Windows XP but now i don't want to boot into Windows at all (except to update antivirus and antispam and run a scan once a week).

Version 7.04 is very nice, it includes Firefox 2.0.3 for web browsing, The Gimp for images, and much more.

I have it installed in two PCs, one is a pentium 4 with 256 MB and 80 GB disk (I'm using 10 GB for Linux), the other one is a 10 year old IBM (celeron I think) with 192 MB memory and 4 GB disk (only about 400 MB left after the full install of ubuntu).

I have to say that I am very happy with it, I have a Xerox laser printer, a bluetooth usb dongle, instant messenger (that my daughter uses), Open Office 2.2 and some great games for the kids.

The one problem that I had was with the installation in the smaller pc, apparently some problem in the installer for machines with less than 256 MB memory, I had to use what they call the "alternate installer" to install version 6.10 first and then do an upgrade to 7.04, but IMHO it was worth the trouble since this has become my 3 year old niece's personal PC, she has no trouble turning it on and off and launching the games.

Luis


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pyton357ru said:
to The Last Confederate

Do you FEEL the need to upgrade your PC? Any apps running unpleasantly slow, or some possibly useful piece of soft won't run?
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Truthfully, the only thing I have noticed is that my PC is starting to run a little slower than it used to and I am getting close to filling the HD, I have less than 8GB left. (I've dumped just about everything I can at this point)

I am thinking of maybe just upgrading the memory first and then the HD later.

I am FINALLY going to DSL next week, and 128MB is the base reccomended memory for Verizon DSL, so I want to do that first.

Other than that, I really don't want to buy a new PC, since I don't play games on mine, I haven't ever been able to "not" do something on it.
 
Don_Luis, I have played with Linux some, and just have never took the plunge over to it yet.

Did you hear that Dell is going to start selling PC's through WQal-Mart with Linux on them?
 
Stick with XP. There is little support for Vista yet and no critical applications there that aren't also in XP.

I'm running Vista, XP and Ubuntu on this PC--all new parts--and Vista is dead last by a large margin in usefulness.

Microsoft has said it will stop selling XP at the end of the year. Unless they improve Vista, the market won't follow them that far. Dell stopped shipping XP for a while to support Vista and demand forced them back into selling XP as well.

Ubuntu is certainly worth a shot. It does most things fairly well but it's not for everyone.

Phil
 
I did look into Ubuntu after Don_Luis mentioned it, and have a CD in the mail.

When I install a new HD, I may just put Ubuntu on it first and see how it does.

Do you know if it has support for a HP Scanjet USB flatbed scanner?
 
The Last Confederate said:
I should mention, that I pretty much only use my PC for web surfing and some digital photo stuff.

I am trying to decide between upgrading my current one or buying a new one.

My current PC has:

Celeron 1.7Ghz.
128MB of ram
40 GB HD

Thinking of boosting the RAM to 1024MB and 160GB HD, but am not sure if staying with a 1.7Ghz. Processor would make it worth it, or should I just buy a new PC???

PS, I really do not want to go to Vista just yet, I try to never use Version 1 of anything Microsoft......
PPS, I am not a gamer and so I don't know that I need the massive PC power that games require.
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Vista requires a MINIMUM of 1GB ram and according to HP customer support likes 2GB a lot better.
 
kamkazmoto said:
Vista requires a MINIMUM of 1GB ram and according to HP customer support likes 2GB a lot better.
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I've seen it run pretty decent on a Dell laptop with 512 , although it was not being taxed , dont know how it would go with a few apps open and all the goodies installed ( firewall , antivirus , media players and so forth).

My work pc is a smoker other than the 1gb ram , Vista runs smooth as silk and this is having several apps open as well as the typically loaded programs.

I am still surpised at how many people ran XP with 256.
 
My daughters Vista had a problem with hardware having to be reloaded. According to HP customer support Vista will run on 1GB but much prefers 2. I noticed that although there are Vista Computers being sold with 512MB a most have 1GB and a lot of the Vista equipped laptops now come with 2GB.
 
To make it short, Im a futureshop guy, I dont know how many people I tell to stay with XP, for now. If it were a work computer,or in an office, heck you just want the newest thing, at least wait until SP1, plain and simple.
 
I think you're better off with XP too. The requirements for Vista would essentially mean you'd be looking at purchasing a new computer.

If you upgraded the RAM it would speed certain applications up (Would probably improve your ability to browse BF and look at a lot of photos of knives at once ;) ) and would allow you to run more programs at once. The Hard Drive upgrade would be worth it too if you've already deleted what you can.

If you bought it all new, you could get 512mb of RAM and a 120gb hard drive for less than 80$ I'd imagine. That's a lot less than a new computer and I'd see that working for you in the situation you described for at least another year or two.

Also, repeating what others have said, most the bugs in an OS don't get worked out until long into it's life. They're still patching Windows XP, and in the past year or two made pretty big changes to it with SP2 and such. That should give you an indication of how these things work, considering how long XP has been out now.

By the way, I actually have a 120gb and 160gb HDD for trade, as well as a 512mb stick of ram and two 256mb sticks. Check the gadgets trade forum for my thread.
 
Avoid Vista like the plague.

-Support for it sucks.
-There are too many versions and not even Microsoft knows how to tell someone what they need.
-It's not very stable, and that is on a test bed machine at work that came with it installed.
-It's peripheral legacy support sucks.
-Security issues, mostly from MS' policies which give you absolutely no privacy and them the right to inspect the contents of your hard drive at any time!!:mad:
-Compatability mode on it is unstable, and too much good software doesn't work right if at all. (Mostly opensource.. hmmmm, nah, it's not a conspiracy.)
-Too many warnings and steps, by the time you get your internet connection set up you'll have been wanting to shoot it for a while. IF your ISP knows how to set it up.
-The help files are worse than ever.
-Massively bloated.
-It means you have to buy a new computer.

Stick with XP. I honestly hope that MS apologizes, issues a new OS on the NT/XP core, and rather than firing the design team on Vista sends each stock holder and customer a small piece of those clowns in a small ziplock baggie. If they don't, they are going to have people abandoning their OS in massive numbers.
 
I just bought a new 2GB Toshiba laptop with Vista My main gripe with Vista is that my most-used software programs won't work without having to pay for an upgraded version (ACT 6.0 being an example). Also, I've experienced a few problems with Firefox on Vista that I never had with XP.
 
He he, I'm typing this on seamonkey browser over puppy linux, I do like ubuntu much better but this one runs fine from a live CD in a small pc and I don't have to touch the hard disk.

You can follow this link for info about devices supported by SANE (for scanners).

Yes I heard about the Dell pc's with linux, and there are other interesting things going around, like the OLPC project, I think it's great, I would like to see linux become a true usable alternative as an operating system for the general public.

Luis
 
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