Vista or XP?

XP all the way

main system differences ( based on a clean install )
XP: 300Mb ram
Vista: 600Mb Ram
XP: 1.5Gb hard drive space
Vista: 15+Gb hard drive space
Vista: states that it must have internet access

apart from the system requirements it does look real good, and i will up grade when the first service pack comes out as it DOES have security holes currently

hope this helps
forrie
 
Early adoption appears ill-advised at this point. Numerous users are reporting problems with a variety of games and such.

Wait till they get it sorted out; took them a while to get XP together as well.
 
Well first I want to thank everybody for their info', today I went to Best-Buy and they had the memory for my PC on sale, so that put me over the top in the "upgrade" option.

I installed 1GB of RAM about 30 minutes ago and the difference is amazing!

My PC used to take about 4 minutes from the time I pushed the button to being fully booted and ready to go.

Now it takes about 45 seconds!
 
Set up a few new computers at work just a month ago, and the software guy had us order them with xp. Got a home one about the same time for my daughter with vista on it and it has razzle dazzle. Right now seems like a needs vs. wants issue until vista gets a little track record and more accessories come out for it.
 
Yeah, I'm in the boat with all the folks saying to stick with XP.

Honestly my plan is this, and a note beforehand, I play alot of games.

Alot of newer games, specifically MS owned or supported are going to come out as Vista only(this alone makes me mad enough to spit in there eye) and Vista is being pushed by alot of hardware vendors as well(there's that conspiracy again)
So somewhere down the road I will be building a high end Vista box, basically just for gaming and a few other things. I will also be building a new Linux box out of some parts I already have and some new ones. That Linux box is where I will do all my normal computing, browsing,banking,office etc.

I will not ever have any but the most basic personal info on a Vista box, period. MS has left open, specific backdoor access for themselves, the government, and those pricks who keep suing everybody over file sharing. I have a problem with that, a big one. If it wasn't for gaming, I would be perfectly happy to write off MS altogether after seeing the mess that is Vista, and if Wine for Linux gets better and starts running games better, I will.

Syn
 
To the OP with his first question, which I don't think anyone really answered: I have three friends who have bought new computers with Vista installed since it came out. All three have since removed Vista from their new computers and installed XP due to software compatibility and bloating issues.

The only real reason I could see going to Vista is for DX10, but nothing I know of uses it yet.

At work and at home I run XP, so you can guess which camp I'm in.
 
Well, my old computer with Windows 98SE just died a horrific puss filled death so I had no choice but to buy a new computer. So far it's OK for my purposes but I am not happy with MS bending over to the RIAA and the Movie Industry when they could have told them to pound sand.
 
NIB said:
Well, my old computer with Windows 98SE just died a horrific puss filled death so I had no choice but to buy a new computer. So far it's OK for my purposes but I am not happy with MS bending over to the RIAA and the Movie Industry when they could have told them to pound sand.
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Another reason that Vista can be a pita.

Vista is like that really hot chick that once you get to know her the issues start creeping out.






No offense to any of the BF ladies :D
 
My brother arrived for a visit recently carrying his brand-new, top-of-the-line laptop PC. He said it came with XP which he used for a few months, but that he'd just upgraded to Vista a couple of days earlier. I, of course, asked, "How do you like Vista? Is it working well?"

His response was, "I love it. And as soon as I get home, I'm removing it and reinstalling XP."

"Why?"

"Because it cut my battery life from two hours to twenty minutes! Is there an outlet behind this sofa? Where does that lamp plug in?"
 
utzman said:
I just bought a new 2GB Toshiba laptop with Vista My main gripe with Vista is that my most-used software programs won't work without having to pay for an upgraded version (ACT 6.0 being an example). Also, I've experienced a few problems with Firefox on Vista that I never had with XP.
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My main gripe also.
 
...if Wine for Linux gets better...
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I'm hoping for that too, not because of MS software but there's always those things like games, tax software, etc. that are often made only for windows.

I managed to get Internet Explorer running with Wine in Ubuntu Linux, only for one particular site that I need and wants it (there's a plugin in firefox to trick a site into believing it's IE but it didn't work 100% in that site).

Luis


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I run Linux and rather than an emulator like wine just use vmware, the free server version.

Oh, and I completely agree that Ubuntu 7.x is very nice.
 
I've installed Vista Ultimate on my *Vista Capable* Toshiba laptop (clean install) and I've not experience any problems with the install. I later installed a trial version of MS Office 2007 Pro and again no issues. Toshiba is great in having a website that has all the Vista drivers and softeware to run my hardware posted on their support site. There is just one minor hiccup when my laptop goes into sleep mode and I bring it up again, the display resolution changes. But that is quite minor and I am still happy with how it runs on my laptop and with all the eye candy.
 
It's not that there are problems with Vista in and of itself, though you're lucky that Toshiba has a good driver support base. I don't have trouble with Vista running on my PC. Works as it's supposed to.

Too much hardware out there does not have Vista support. Which isn't Vista's fault.

But, on the same hardware, XP runs faster, about 10% faster. Vista has tremendous amounts of bloat and the biggest performance hit is the built-in DRM paranoia of Vista. Another downer is WMP 11. Awful implementation of a media player.

Vista has poor backwards compatibility with common crucial software applications.

The best feature in Vista is a useful Limited User account. This is the main security feature that Vista has in locking out system access to spyware and such crap. It's how computers SHOULD run really. But the cost to get that feature in Vista isn't worth it at this time. And it remains to be seen how well that implementation will work. While XP was supposed to have that feature, you couldn't run many games and important software tools without admin level access. There isn't enough software out to really test Vista's implementation.

Phil
 
Gollnick said:
My brother arrived for a visit recently carrying his brand-new, top-of-the-line laptop PC. He said it came with XP which he used for a few months, but that he'd just upgraded to Vista a couple of days earlier. I, of course, asked, "How do you like Vista? Is it working well?"

His response was, "I love it. And as soon as I get home, I'm removing it and reinstalling XP."

"Why?"

"Because it cut my battery life from two hours to twenty minutes! Is there an outlet behind this sofa? Where does that lamp plug in?"
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Heh, heh, heh. Great story. :thumbup: But don't you think the smokin' CPU in that bad boy is what is burning through his battery life? I'd be curious to hear how much it improves when he goes back to XP.
 
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