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As a result of the 7" test and ensuing discussions, is anyone changing their buying? If you have MDs, are you thinking of selling? If you have MDs on order, are you cancelling? If you were considering a MD, have you dropped it from consideration?
 
I have a Mini Shrike that I'm keeping, I have a Wild Thing coming from another forum member that I'm looking forward to, and I have a Panther on order from Shannon that from Jim March's description I'm going to fall in love with. These knives fit my expectations of them. So do my Spyderco FB1 and my Sebenza. The clip tip fighter I have coming from Roy at Hammerhead may be the best buy I've made based on other reports on Greco. I'm not an extreme user that needs the level of performance Cliff Stamp does. I believe Mad Dogs will perform they way they are intended for me. I have no problem with Cliff's tests, Mike's tests, or anyone else determining if the knives meet their expectations. That's why there are multiple brands of SUVs. Some like to go to the woods, some like to make it out of their driveway in the snow, and some like the way they look in the grocery store parking lot. Different strokes for different folks.

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[This message has been edited by marklee (edited 05 November 1999).]
 
Guys please don't sell your Mad Dogs or do anything drastic. He makes great knives and I know that now from first hand knowledge. His handles are absolutely KICK ASS and guess what I WANT ONE! Seriously I am going to buy an ATAK. I just want a different heat treat maybe so the edge aint so hard. Heck maybe this one is a screw up. I will carry a Busse for chopping and a Mad Dog for fighting!

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Heck no!!!

I'm anxiously awaiting an ATAK Thing, and am contemplating a Panther. I will be adding to my current inventory of Mad Dogs because 1) they they are good knives and 2) they fit my hand like a glove.

I've been paying close attention to what has been said on both forums. Interesting, to say the least. But nothing has changed the way I feel about Mad Dog and his knives.
 
Too many who know knives well think very highly of Mad Dog knives. Who am I to not want one. If I had a big enough budget, I would love to buy a Panther or a Shrike or ... well you get the idea. Multiple knives for multiple purposes. I love a good fighting knife.

I am still looking forward to more tests!
 
I was thinking about selling my Panther a while before this incident happened. The knife is as good as you'd read here and elsewhere. I shouldn't have bought the Black Cloud FB-4.

Though I refrain myself from give further comment on the issue to avoid unnecessary bitterness, I have to accept honestly that the notch incident made me able to decide.
A few custom makers here have opinioned the very statement that I also have in my mind.
The knife with notch is not a fake. It's a defective product that was not destroyed! With a knife in this price range, even there's only one of that, it's unacceptable.
I will say this even to my most favorite custom makers.

So, to answer your question, Spidey : My Panther is in perfect new condition, never used or sharpened, with dundee rig. Bought directly from Shannon. Anyone wants to cut your wait on the Panther can contact me. I'm willing to deduct $100 from the price on MD page.

That's the last MD I have with me. Anyone wanna be its new owner?

Dew.

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[This message has been edited by Dew (edited 05 November 1999).]
 
I personally have a Busse #7, Mad Dog ATAK2, and CS Recon Scout. I'm keeping all of them. I like all of them, and they are all quality knives in my opinon. The testing did nothing to sway my opinions on any of the three. I remain a huge fan of Busse Combat, Mad Dog Tactical, and Cold Steel. End of story.

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I have a 3/16" Arizona Hunter, coming to me next week from Mad Dog. I still think it will be the ultimate hunter for me. The only question in my mind is whether I will like it better than my Mad Dog Lab Rat. I like the Lab Rat a lot, and I am now really not sure what the AZ Hunter will do that the Lab Rat won't, but the AZ Hunter will still be a fine blade.

I am still planning on giving an INFI knife a try sometime too.

Dew,
I'd be your man, but guess what, I've got three Black Cloud bowies now. Doh!
 
I used to think I would get some flavor of MD, but now I cannot say that with a straight face. It is not the TUSK incident or the ATAK episode, it is the reaction to them by MDK that bugs the hell out of me so much.

Contrast MD with Strider to take an example. If you somehow break your Strider, which is a highly improbable event, they will replace it hassle free if you will simply tell them how you broke it. That is the correct way to handle problems when one is supposedly in the business of designing and making uberknives for the field. If one wants to claim superior performance over all comers, by God, it had better show up every time, no matter who is testing or using/abusing the knife. Such a no hassle policy is also a pretty certain way to make sure that your reputation for making tough knives is based on more than marketing and self-promotion as some black ops super-spook.

If you want an MD fine, I want a maker who unquestionably stands behind his product come hell or high water.

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[This message has been edited by Oregon Duck (edited 06 November 1999).]
 
I have just read the (unbelievable!) reply from Mrs. Maddog elsewhere. It read something like only the *original* owner would be considered as a customer to them, even the case where this defective knife was concerned.

I take back my offer for the Panther above. There is no reason for anyone to spend that much money without proper warranty.

Dew.

[This message has been edited by Dew (edited 06 November 1999).]
 
No the results of the 7" blade test did not alter my opinion of the ATAK. It performed pretty much as I would have expected.

However, the quality control problem (the notch thing) that has surfaced in the wake of the test has caused me to delay any purchase of MAD DOG products until it has been conclusively resolved. Knives in this price range are both using knives and collector items. I would expect that collector interest and value will plummet, and I do not intend to spend $300.00+ dollars for an item with a far lower potential market value.

This is the same thing that happens with any collector item when the market suspects that a large number of fakes/forgeries have entered circulation. Caveat Emptor, expect buyers to be leary.
 
Anybody taking delivery of a new Mad Dog need have no worries as the rejects are several years old. If you purchased a Mad Dog knife used over the last few years, and it is performing well, as the four that I purchased did, there is no concern. Collectors considering purchasing a Mad Dog in the secondary market with no documentation and no intention of using the knife may have a concern.

Dew,
Ha, ha! That's mighty unselfish of you to withdraw your offer to sell your Panther for $100 below list because the warranty doesn't transfer. How about $400 for it without the warranty? I promise I won't feel taken advantage of. Ha, haaa!

[This message has been edited by Steve Harvey (edited 06 November 1999).]
 
Steve,

With your unwavering trust on MD constantly shown here, I'm surprised that you ask such a bargain only for the lack of warranty. MD knives are invincible. Why care for the warranty? You should bravely buy from me at full price to show your confidence on the MD, shouldn't ya?
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Dew.
 
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