i ended up buying the voyager xl tanto and a clip point code 4... both amazing tools, so far the code 4 has been in my pocket daily sense i bought it, the slim size makes it disappear, i have stopped using my regular daily carry which is a benchamade barrage because the code 4 has just been a great fit. as far as my original question about the XL being to big.. well now that i have one yes these things are almost comical, LOL but its a great knife to keep in the truck, i live in Arizona and carry a concealed firearm for protection, i dont see myself ever wanting to rely on just a blade for self defense but if shit hit the fan im pretty sure the voyager XL could hack off some limbs