Waiting....

Have to second what Oli said....Denmark is becoming a nanny state with laws about anything! Wonder how long it'll be before it takes a permit to own gardening tools and a chain saw?
If I had the opportunity, I'd be outta here, heading west!
It needs to be said though, that a lot of danes share the views of Oli and myself....just not the imbicile politicians and the police who are convinced they cannot allow the public to think and take responsibility for themselves!:barf:
As to not totally hijack this thread.....I'm waiting for INFI and leather too! Should be here in less than two weeks - hopefully!:D
 
ITs getting close...USPS says it was delivered today.Think I will go over to Buy Brown holsters a look at pics.
 
Hi Bo!
thanks for sharing the view! What about the process of getting "import autorization of edged weapon"? Have the cops declared that your incoming Busse are too nasty?
 
Hey Oli!
No word from the CopShop yet! I would imagine that they had called me back if there was a problem, but you never know!
The fact that most of them don't know the law makes it even more exciting!:rolleyes:
 
hmmmm...crazy...normaly this procedure take 5 minutes...this laws really sucks...if they at least had an effect or prevention on criminality...it could be easier to accept :grumpy:
 
WHAT!!!:eek: Bo and Oli, do you tell the cops you have knives coming??!!:confused: Get the permid (It´s free!!), then they can´t touch you, -with getting FB´s anywayz;)
About the laws not doing any good...hmmm... I´ll agree when it comes to knife laws, but the gunlaws does help holding the murder rate down. AND, before I get the NRA on my back, we never had the tradition of guns in the home for self-protection and Hunters can still get the guns they need etc...

ALIass -Dane, and damn proud of it!!..... well I like the beer here anywayz:D ;)
 
Author Unknown: (from Soldier of Fortune magazine, October 1994.)

It is time to speak plainly for the good citizens and patriots of this nation who believe unendingly in the Constitution of the United States of America.

Though foreign governments may disarm their subjects, we will not go down that road.

We will not disarm and see our freedoms stripped away. The lessons of history are numerous, clear, and bloody. A disarmed population inevitably becomes an enslaved population. A disarmed population is without power, reduced to childlike obedience to - and dependence upon - the organs of a parental state. A disarmed population will lose - either piecemeal or in one sweeping act - those basic rights for which the citizens of America risked their lives and fortunes over 200 years ago.

We Will Not Disarm. The right to self-protection - the internal directive of every living creature, be it mouse or man - is the most fundamental right of all. It is a right that must be exercised against the predators of the streets, against the predators hidden within agencies of law enforcement, and against the most dangerous predators of all - those to be found in government, whose insidious grasping for power is relentless and never-ending.

We Will Not Disarm. Not in the face of robbers, rapists and murderers who prey upon our families and friends. Nor in the face of police and bureau agents who would turn a blind eye to the Constitution, who would betray the birthright of their countrymen; nor in the face of politicians of the lowest order - those who pander to the ignorant, the weak, the fearful, the naive; those indebted to a virulent strain of the rich who insulate themselves from the dangers imposed upon other Americans and then preach disarmament.

We will not surrender our handguns. We will not surrender our hunting arms. And we will not surrender our firearms of military pattern or military utility, nor their proper furnishings, nor the right to buy, to sell, or to manufacture such items. Firearms of military utility, which serve well and nobly in times of social disturbance as tools of defense for the law-abiding, serve also in the quiet role of prevention, against both the criminal and the tyrannical. An armed citizenry - the well-regulated militia of the Second Amendment, properly armed with military firearms - is a powerful deterrent, on both conscious and subconscious levels, to those inclined toward governmental usurpations.

An armed citizenry stands as a constant reminder to those in power that, though they may violate our rights temporarily, they will not do so endlessly and without consequence. And should Americans again be confronted with the necessity of - may God forbid it - throwing off the chains of a tyrannical and suffocating regime, firearms designed to answer the particular demands of warfare will provide the swiftest and most decisive means to this end.

Any law which prohibits or limits a citizen's possession of firearms of military utility or their proper furnishings provides an open window through which a corrupt government will crawl to steal away the remainder of our firearms and our liberties.

Any law which prohibits or limits a citizen's possession of firearms of military utility or their proper furnishings, being directly contrary to the letter and spirit of the Second Amendment, is inimical to the Constitution, to the United States of America, and to its citizens.

Now - today - we are witnessing the perilous times foreseen by the architects of the Constitution. These are times when our government is demanding - in the guise of measures for the common good - the relinquishment of several rights guaranteed to Americans in the Constitution, foremost among which is the right to keep and bear arms for our own defense. These are times when our government has abdicated its primary responsibility - to provide for the security of its citizens. Swift and sure punishment of outlaws is absent, and in its place is offered the false remedy of disarming the law-abiding. Where this unconstitutional action has been given the force of law, it has failed to provide relief and has produced greater social discord. This discord in turn now serves as the false basis for the demand that we give up other rights, and for the demand for more police, more agents of bureaucratic control to enforce the revocation of these rights.

Legislators, justices and law officers must bear in mind that the foundation of their duties is to uphold the fundamental law of the land - the Constitution. They must bear in mind that the unconstitutional act of disarming one's fellow citizens will also disarm one's parents, spouse, brothers, sisters, children and children's children. They must bear in mind that there are good citizens who - taking heed of George Washington's belief that arms are the liberty teeth of the people - will not passively allow these teeth to be torn out. There are good citizens who - taking heed of Benjamin Franklin's admonition that those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - will surrender not one of their rights

Those who eat away at our right to own and use firearms are feeding on the roots of a plant over two centuries old, a plant whose blossom is the most free, most powerful nation ever to exist on the face of this planet.

The right to keep and bear arms is the tap root of this plant. All other rights were won at the point of a gun and will endure only at the point of a gun. Could they speak, millions upon millions of this world's dead souls would testify to this truth. Millions upon millions of the living can so testify today. Now - today - is a critical moment in our history.

Will we Americans passively lie down before a government grown disdainful of its best citizens? Or will we again declare:
WE are the government, government functions at our behest, and it may not rescind our sacred rights? Will we place our faith in public servants who behave like our masters? Or will we place our faith in the words and deeds of the daring, far-seeing men and women whose blood, sweat and tears brought forth this great nation?

Will we believe those who assure us that the police officer will shield us from the criminal? Or will we believe our eyes and ears, presented every day with news of our unarmed neighbors falling prey in their homes, on our streets, in our places of work and play?

Will we bow our heads to cowards and fools who will not learn and do not understand the lessons of human history? Or will we stand straight and assume the daily tasks and risks that liberty entails?

Will we ignore even the lessons of this present era - which has seen the cruel oppression of millions on the continents of Europe, Asia, Africa and South America - and believe that the continent of North America is immune to such political disease? Or will we wisely accept the realities of this world, wisely listen to and make use of the precautions provided by our ancestors?

Will we be deceived by shameless liars who say that disarmament equals safety, helplessness equals strength, patriotism equals criminality? Or will we mark the words of our forefathers, who wrote in plain language: The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed?
Let us make known: We will choose the latter option in every case.
Legislators: Do your duty to your country. Uphold the Constitution as you swore to do. Do not shame yourselves by knocking loose the mighty keystone of this great republic - the right to bear arms.

Justices: Do your duty to your country. Examine the origins of our right to weaponry and uphold the letter and spirit of the Constitution.

Lawmen: Do your duty to your country. Do not be misguided and misused. Your task is to serve and to protect - not to oppress, to disarm and to make helpless your countrymen. To the blind, the ignorant, the apathetic, the safe and sheltered, these may seem to be concerns of another age. They are not. They are as vital as they ever have been through history.
For times may change but human nature does not.
And it is to protect forever against the evil in human nature that the Founding Fathers set aside certain rights as inviolable.

For these reasons we must now make known:
We will not passively take the path that leads to tyranny.
We will not go down that road.
We Will Not Disarm.
 
I belive this to be true in the USA. A country I respect and love. However the same things said in Denmark would sound very hollow and strange since we are a nation (Old as sin..) that never has had firearms (-not counting hunting weapons here!) as a natural part of our civil lives.....
ALIass
 
..Well, guess i could use a good six-shooter for the glove compartment:D :p
...actually, if I had some $, i would be trying to get my hands on one of your black ZTSH-E´s:eek: (Since you havent got a such in the NO form...;) )
ALIass
 
Thanks Skunk.

Gun ownership is not about hunting.

They do not cause crime any more than owning silverware makes you fat.

I'll stop.

Be ever on guard, there are those who wish them taken away....
=======================

So, what is everyone gonna get when the website comes up???
 
when the time comes let me know, i got one! but we will get in trouble selling or buying on this forum;)

a ztsh that is:rolleyes:
 
Idahoskunk ALLELUIA!!!

ALIass, are you sure you're Danish? Cause when I speak with Rikke's Dad he explain me that when he was younger "shooting" was a part of the "sport education" at school.It was back then a civil duty to learn to shoot... Beside a part of the population member of the national guard is allowed to have their assault rifle at home.
Untill the late 70's Shooting was a very practiced sport and part of the school éducation program... But then came all the hippies, they took over the politic and today if you say you want to shoot "for fun" in Denmark people look at you as a psycho...
Untill 1976 it was free to buy a 22 long rifle and untill for 2 years ago you coul own as many guns as you wanted as long as they were registred as sport guns...
For the "holding criminality down" part, sorry but here in Denmark 85% of the criminality comited with firearms is comited with "hunting" arms...:grumpy: 79% of the murder comited with knives are comited with kitchen knives...
The same Hunting sports is not so free anymore cause on a hunting permit you can't even buy a half auto rifle, not even a 22! And lead is prohibited in shotshells...Denmark is of course the only country in Europe who prohibite the use of lead in shotshells...As it is the only country who ask a permit to own a knife over 4.75"...
 
We are just a couple of guys "talking".....Nothing more than that!!... Is it a SH or NO you got, that your not offering on this forum, and that I´ll not buy here?!
I´ll stop before we get into trouble..:D
ALIass
Oli, I´m sure I´m Danish!! Just wondering what schools your talking about. Here where I live we still have school shooting contests, and a great number of the children join these contests. I have never heard of shooting as a part of the public school here, however i´m sure some schools had it on the schedule. What does this have to do with not having guns in the home for selfprotection..?
If you look at the amount of killings here in this country (6 mill. people) you´ll see a VERY low number of killings with guns. IIRC less than 50 in 2002. This was my point, not with what kind of firearm they were killed...
Take care,
ALIass
 
It is a fact that every country that has inacted strick gun laws has had the crime rate rise.The anti gun sheep here hates the fact that in every state that has allowed carry permits to be obtained by any law abiding person the crime rate in that state droped dramaticly after the permits were started.
Last I saw in TN there have been over 100,000 CCPs issued,myself included.If you are planning on holding someone up or atempting a armed robbery the question would have to run through your mind "how many people in there are armed"
 
Originally posted by ALIass
We are just a couple of guys "talking".....Nothing more than that!!... Is it a SH or NO you got, that your not offering on this forum, and that I´ll not buy here?!
I´ll stop before we get into trouble..:D


I think I have Both For Sale!! :-)



Oli, I´m sure I´m Danish!! Just wondering what schools your talking about. Here where I live we still have school shooting contests, and a great number of the children join these contests. I have never heard of shooting as a part of the public school here, however i´m sure some schools had it on the schedule. What does this have to do with not having guns in the home for selfprotection..?
If you look at the amount of killings here in this country (6 mill. people) you´ll see a VERY low number of killings with guns. IIRC less than 50 in 2002. This was my point, not with what kind of firearm they were killed...
Take care,
ALIass

"the west wasn't won with a registered knife"

jerry busse - 1983
 
Originally posted by u812
It is a fact that every country that has inacted strick gun laws has had the crime rate rise.The anti gun sheep here hates the fact that in every state that has allowed carry permits to be obtained by any law abiding person the crime rate in that state droped dramaticly after the permits were started.
Last I saw in TN there have been over 100,000 CCPs issued,myself included.If you are planning on holding someone up or atempting a armed robbery the question would have to run through your mind "how many people in there are armed"
good point, idaho only has a million people in the whole state and i'll be their all armed!
 
ALI, what I mean is that you are right in the fact that the Denmark have not a big culture as weapon for home protection, but shooting sport have been very popular among the danish population, so I think this new guns laws don't reflect the danish mentality ;)
 
When a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher knife and a hard-on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross.
-- (Dirty Harry, 1971)
 
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