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Franciscomv said:
How is the blade on a Leatherman different from a regular pocket knife?

I understand some of this rather ridiculous bans from a legal perspective (maybe the company needs to do it for insurance purposes or perhaps just to cover their behind in certain cases), but for the life of me I can't fathom why people who're actually working with hand tools would agree. Sometimes, these rules are due to somebody doing something really dumb in the past, for instance I worked at a couple of places where football (soccer) shirts were not allowed because some idiots (highly educated idiots with university degrees, mind you) would get into fist fights. At a range I go to, they had to enforce a limit of loading and shooting rifles just one cartridge at a time because of some Rambo wannabes that sprayed everything but their target with bullets.
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I'm a Boca fan, nobody better show up with a River Plate shirt on MY job! Lol! ;)
 
Franciscomv said:
How is the blade on a Leatherman different from a regular pocket knife?

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Well, for one thing, the Leatherman is way more terrifying than any normal pocket knife, considering all the frightening implements at one's disposal . Can you imagine being can-openered to death? Or, even worse....
....pinched to death by tiny pliers? Makes me shutter just thinking about it.
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Worked at Cabela's, who sells tons of knives, and carried a Spyderco Gayle Bradley when I knew we were going to receive a big inventory shipment with lots of boxes and zip-ties, etc. Strictly against policy, which I can sort of understand if you are working in the jewelry/gift area, but not in the gun counter area. I was discrete about it and no one ever raised an issue. I think the troops in the trenches know more about knife use than the corporate insurance and personnel folks sometimes. I have seen more accidents by people using razor box openers than I ever have seen using a good sharp pocket knife. As a kid living in Michigan every boy and many girls carried small pocket knives to schools, around home, camping, scout meetings, etc. It was just not a big deal and nobody every got upset about it because our folks taught us how to use and sharpen them at a young age. And we knew we could get out butts kicked if we ever goofed around with them.
 
GIRLYmann said:
Clearly, in some way
Knifephobia in our time is the work of collective
"autosuggestion".
Who but the media (through controlled directives or otherwise)
creates heighten public hysteria via continued sensational reporting...
To amplify the concerns of negative blade related incidences
Which has been occuring ever since the first prototype knife was adopted by early man
It is unfortunate that the knife is a two edge sword
Having had the dubious role of asserting unrestrained self-serving expressions
For longest time in human society - for centuries, might i add.
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A ban it seems, is only as good as the individual who complies.
And logic would precede all actions eventually.
Unfortunately, some folks it appears, would rather continue to bite nails...
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Okay, the grammar and language used here makes me laugh a little more than even the original story for this.

No offense, but you don't have to write a poem to effectively say nothing and try to make it out to be entirely the media's fault in order to make your point. I get what you're trying to say, really I do, but this might not have been the best method of communicating what you meant here...

People naturally overreact to situations that could cause harm to them and their loved ones, and it isn't hard to manipulate those feelings, and I won't deny that that the media hasn't had a large role in the issue, but they certainly aren't the only ones who are to blame for this.

Really, it is likely one of those issues of insurance, as many other people here have said. Either that, or someone made a few too many dumb mistakes with a tool they didn't know how to use (a knife, in this case), and that lead to some decisions having to be made for the future in the workplace.
For every stupid warning label/regulation, there has been at least one much more stupid person...
 
bodog said:
My workplace has a policy in place that says only "buck type" knives are allowed to be worn on an outer belt. Can someone please explain to me what a "buck type" knife is?

I skirt the policy by wearing whatever I want strapped to an inner belt. Meets the policy. In reality pretty much any knife is a "buck type" knife because buck has created many models in many variations as to make the policy worthless. I don't point that out though. I just wear what I want on an inner belt and don't make it obvious unless I'm using it during which most people recognize its utility.
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They mean something like the Buck 110 lock back. Your employer is probably alright with any lock blade folder, doesn't want fixed blade or slipjoints.
 
Urban redneck said:
Oh I did! The answer was that it was a dull blade so it was OK...... AAAAGHHHHHHH!!!
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Oh yeah, lets use a dull blade, which is universally MORE dangerous than a sharp knife to actually use in the hands of anyone who has a brain and knows not to stab themselves...wow, that's insanely stupid.

It's not like this only happens with knives, and that makes me really wonder how many people live with their damn heads shoved where the sun don't shine all the time.
Carnialrectitus is a global epidemic, folks. We need to do something about it...
 
bt93 said:
They mean something like the Buck 110 lock back. Your employer is probably alright with any lock blade folder, doesn't want fixed blade or slipjoints.
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Okay, I get slip joints, but I have seen this in some places too, where they don't want you to have a fixed blade specifically, even though they are alright with you having a folding knife that locks.

I'm sorry, but last time I checked, a fixed blade was probably the safest knife you could really get in terms of general design, since the blade is always in the same place, and the least-likely to fail by far.

I get it if you're out where customers or someone can see what you're doing, but really besides that, I don't see why not allowing fixed blades but allowing locking folders really makes sense.
 
I don't understand knife bans at all. Knives make horrible weapons anyways. AND the majority of "knife crime" is done with cheapo kitchen knives.

I don't even show people my knives anymore. I had a coworker ask to see my brand new small WC sebenza, and then he threw it to see if he could stick it into the ground, which was linoleum. I was pretty horrified and learned my lesson.

But yeah, most people are stupid about/with knives.
 
Ccc said:
I don't understand knife bans at all. Knives make horrible weapons anyways. AND the majority of "knife crime" is done with cheapo kitchen knives.

I don't even show people my knives anymore. I had a coworker ask to see my brand new small WC sebenza, and then he threw it to see if he could stick it into the ground, which was linoleum. I was pretty horrified and learned my lesson.

But yeah, most people are stupid about/with knives.
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Someone would be getting punched if they EVER did that with my knives, and they know it. One person has, and that was generally all it took to never have that happen again.
I don't worry about showing my friends my knives since they know, for the above-mentioned reason, not to mess one of them up or try anything stupid with it, but strangers generally have to be told politely not to touch them at all.
 
The only truly dangerous weapon is the human mind. All weapons are an extension of it. What your company needs is a ban on stupidity.
 
I enjoyed that post too much. I made it a rule that you had to sign out the store box cutter through me, or the owner. We have a couple employees who tend to leave them on the sales floor, so it makes them accountable.

We have no rule against knives at work, just a rule about the store's knives. I carry whatever I want, and the owner doesn't care. I have been mid conversation with a customer and had an employee bring me something they needed cut, because I can get it done quicker than going to the office and getting the form for them to sign out a blade.

My 16 year old employee now regularly carries a pocket knife I gave him. It's a cheap folder, but he gets about as excited at my new knives as I do. Good kid, in ROTC. I cleared giving him the knife with his parents before I gave it to him. Now he doesn't hassle me for a knife when he's working, and if I'm busy, my other employees go to him for cutting work. Win win situation.
 
ichor said:
Franciscomv said:
How is the blade on a Leatherman different from a regular pocket knife?

QUOTE]

Well, for one thing, the Leatherman is way more terrifying than any normal pocket knife, considering all the frightening implements at one's disposal . Can you imagine being can-openered to death? Or, even worse....
....pinched to death by tiny pliers? Makes me shutter just thinking about it.
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Or the cigar cutters banned from planes---."Awright, GIMME your finger!"
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Why didn't either of you have the required cutting tool for the job? That's the lesson. If they're paying you, play by the rules. Your knife doesn't cut better than an olfa. ;)
 
As a Superintendent myself, I'm ashamed to know that there are GC's out there that are enforcing such policies.

"You can't carry a knife, but that sledgehammer, sawzall, and circular saw are all ok in my book..."

I had a painter look at me sideways for carrying a knife once. He said "do you carry a knife all the time?" to which I replied "yea, don't you?". I had my Umnumzaan, and he couldn't believe the price tag it carried; he thought I was joking.

No offense to any painters on here, but painters always seem kind of soft-spoken and meek when compared to some of the excavators, steel workers, plumbers, etc. IDK, just a trend I've noticed:D
 
We were doing a refueling at a nuke and the owner of the nukeplant issued us Olfa knives to make up stresscones and the GC asked what was taking so long so we showed him our issued knife he laughed ,long story short he smuggled in our regular knives ie.110's and modern folders:rolleyes:
 
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