Warcraft Tanto vs Mora Companion, Tramontina machete and Fiskars axe?

Alberta Ed said:
An SAK and a folding saw make a pretty versatile combination for light back country camping.
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SAK with nail clippers, tweezers, tooth pick and other stuff could be useful for hygiene, so I like the idea.

I'm failing to see the usefulness of file, bottle opener and some other things SAK has, but I guess you could use it for prying in a pinch or if you find anything.

A saw is useful without a doubt, but a knife still can do more.

I think a fixed blade and a SAK would be useful. SAK can never hurt IMO. It's small, light and has plenty of gadgets.
fishface5 said:
If the knife is sufficient for your use then yours completely fine. If you were on a multi- day hike and needed to build a light shelter it would be easier with the 3 blade combo than the warcraft, but do you care?
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I don't really care, a bit more struggle to build a shelter is a good trade-off if it means I'm not lugging around 3 different pieces with me for days.
 
On the "cheap" end I've got a Fiskars ax and a Mora. On the "mid-upper" end I've got an LT Wright and own (though in a different country) an ox-head felling ax. So on the topic of what you get for your dollar. Spending 10-20x the price does not buy 10-20x the tool. But there is also a big middle ground where you are also buying the branding, the styling and the overall packaging of the item. My mora is cheap because it's one of a million with an injection molded sheath. My LT is a production model but it was made by a trained person who had several QC points to pass or fail it on. Same with my axes, though the prices are not as wide apart. (I also have a tram machete)
As far as use, I've lived, worked, and camped from the sub-arctic to the sub-tropics, and at the end of the day there is one truth, the best knife is the one on you when you need it. Western tantos are not for me, but that's alright. I'm not going to say that I'm better for carrying a different style blade. I've also worked in an industry where the knife you have on you might account for more than just a convenience, and I've seen guys struggle with some of the aspects of western tantos and so maybe that colors my vision. I've never "needed" a knife in a situation suited to that knife style. As far as which tools are best, it really depends on the terrain and conditions. I've been places where cutting sticks without a saw would have been foolish, and likewise, I've hiked trails where the machete rules. There is no "one rule", as there is no "one trail" and no "one person". Carry what works for you, and see how what others are carrying can fit within your context. The flak you will often see is not so much a tool choice or environment, but rather towards the elitism that can creep in when someone isn't careful about how they discuss only needing a certain tool, or why they choose certain limits. At the end of the day, you carry what you want, keeping in mind that some of us have done the same, and came away with a different conclusion. We are not all asking or answering the same questions.
 
gadgetgeek said:
On the "cheap" end I've got a Fiskars ax and a Mora. On the "mid-upper" end I've got an LT Wright and own (though in a different country) an ox-head felling ax. So on the topic of what you get for your dollar. Spending 10-20x the price does not buy 10-20x the tool. But there is also a big middle ground where you are also buying the branding, the styling and the overall packaging of the item. My mora is cheap because it's one of a million with an injection molded sheath. My LT is a production model but it was made by a trained person who had several QC points to pass or fail it on. Same with my axes, though the prices are not as wide apart. (I also have a tram machete)
As far as use, I've lived, worked, and camped from the sub-arctic to the sub-tropics, and at the end of the day there is one truth, the best knife is the one on you when you need it. Western tantos are not for me, but that's alright. I'm not going to say that I'm better for carrying a different style blade. I've also worked in an industry where the knife you have on you might account for more than just a convenience, and I've seen guys struggle with some of the aspects of western tantos and so maybe that colors my vision. I've never "needed" a knife in a situation suited to that knife style. As far as which tools are best, it really depends on the terrain and conditions. I've been places where cutting sticks without a saw would have been foolish, and likewise, I've hiked trails where the machete rules. There is no "one rule", as there is no "one trail" and no "one person". Carry what works for you, and see how what others are carrying can fit within your context. The flak you will often see is not so much a tool choice or environment, but rather towards the elitism that can creep in when someone isn't careful about how they discuss only needing a certain tool, or why they choose certain limits. At the end of the day, you carry what you want, keeping in mind that some of us have done the same, and came away with a different conclusion. We are not all asking or answering the same questions.
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I agree with you about western tanto style blades. I like tanto blades and as I sharpen my knives I let the hard angle soften.
 
EatingSarma said:
Just a hike, but they gotta make fire, and mora and machete won't split wood so there's axe, and machete is for thinner stuff... and mora is... they carve some stuff with it so it looks useful.

To me, it's crazy to carry that much stuff, they however believe they're well prepared.

That's the thing, I don't doubt they are good, and I read hundreds of comments of people claiming all they need is a Mora and so on... but I want more. I want one knife that can cut, chop and split if needed. And that's what Warcraft Tanto is. Plus a lot better steel and tougher than any of it.
The point is - as a knife enthusiast I want MORE 😆


The handle, the balance, the blade shape and geometry, the steel and the heat treat... everything is spot on!
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You should learn to carve wedges, really, but I'll tell you that your knife can chop wood if needed, you could make fire with that. People must not forget that you can just burn logs, you do not always have to split them, but yeah, I get wanting a knife for wood-splitting. I could baton my house in half with my 1075 Ontario SP-1 if I wanted to, haha. Actually really love that line, want to get a 10" chopper from them as my "budget" chopper, and an ESSE Junglas, a machete, axe, Opinel and Morakniv doing the rest of my outdoor work.

What steel is your knife, may I ask?
 
Hashishiin said:
You should learn to carve wedges, really, but I'll tell you that your knife can chop wood if needed, you could make fire with that. People must not forget that you can just burn logs, you do not always have to split them, but yeah, I get wanting a knife for wood-splitting. I could baton my house in half with my 1075 Ontario SP-1 if I wanted to, haha. Actually really love that line, want to get a 10" chopper from them as my "budget" chopper, and an ESSE Junglas, a machete, axe, Opinel and Morakniv doing the rest of my outdoor work.

What steel is your knife, may I ask?
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Warcraft tanto is 5mm thick knife in CPM-3V steel, and yeah it's a full tang (tapers down a bit at very bottom of the handle, but still really solid).

I don't baton for a fire, I use lighter (because why not?), some dry grass, small twigs, bigger twigs and then I throw in bigger pieces of wood.
But I just don't see that thing breaking even if I batonned it.

And yeah, Warcraft tanto is a decent chopper. And I don't really carve with it, I see no need for that.
 
Someone above mentioned context and I agree that’s the key.

What would I prefer on a day hike in nice weather? Tanto for sure.

On the other hand, for a long-term camping situation or if I was in extreme weather and expecting to make a fire or shelter I’d go with the others.

That’s why I think it’s nice to have several knives/machetes/axes/tomahawks to choose from depending on what I’m doing/where I’m going.
 
EatingSarma said:
Warcraft tanto is 5mm thick knife in CPM-3V steel, and yeah it's a full tang (tapers down a bit at very bottom of the handle, but still really solid).

I don't baton for a fire, I use lighter (because why not?), some dry grass, small twigs, bigger twigs and then I throw in bigger pieces of wood.
But I just don't see that thing breaking even if I batonned it.

And yeah, Warcraft tanto is a decent chopper. And I don't really carve with it, I see no need for that.
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That sounds more than adequate. Nice!
 
When I was young, I built fires and shelters all the time with a wornout Imperial stockman 3 blade with stamped bolsters. It ain’t the arrow, it’s the Indian.

Perhaps those guys are really excited about what they got, and are just getting carried away in their enthusiasm. Happens all the time, and not just with knives. OTOH, maybe they really are genuine A-holes. Either way, no reason to stop using what you like, if it works for you.

Parker
 
catspa said:
When I was young, I built fires and shelters all the time with a wornout Imperial stockman 3 blade with stamped bolsters. It ain’t the arrow, it’s the Indian.

Perhaps those guys are really excited about what they got, and are just getting carried away in their enthusiasm. Happens all the time, and not just with knives. OTOH, maybe they really are genuine A-holes. Either way, no reason to stop using what you like, if it works for you.

Parker
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I'm just doing what I like and having fun with it.

And it's off putting to have people take something relaxing so seriously and ruin the point of it.

It's like when the people at gym give you advices you don't want or need.

Calling me mall ninja because of knife being called Warcraft while they take a knive, machete and axe just for a hike is a bit crazy IMO...
 
1, Enjoy what you enjoy. Don't be bothered with other people's weird comments. They may think they're superior but they're just annoying.

2, Small knife + machete + axe is superior ONLY when weight is not an issue. Which means they're either using them only around their properties, or for car camping. How could they have the nerves to call you a mall Ninja when they don't even walk far while you bear all the weight on your own and make a journey?
 
I had never heard the term "Mall Ninja" until this thread.....
I'm begining to think it sounds like a great comic book super hero......
You know nerdy guy fights crime with weapons and gadgets he bought at the mall......
 
UNBLF said:
1, Enjoy what you enjoy. Don't be bothered with other people's weird comments. They may think they're superior but they're just annoying.

2, Small knife + machete + axe is superior ONLY when weight is not an issue. Which means they're either using them only around their properties, or for car camping. How could they have the nerves to call you a mall Ninja when they don't even walk far while you bear all the weight on your own and make a journey?
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They are weird I guess.
One of them carries a shovel too...

Why on earth would someone take entire toolbox to a camping?

I might understand if they were going to be out for multiple days like someone said. But still, you'll spend a lot of energy just carrying that around.

I'm also failing to see how would clip point or scandi grind benefit me on a blade the size of Warcraft tanto 😆
 
Getting different views and opinions is fun. Getting called a mall ninja well that's just wrong and more of an aggressive attack on one's knife choice.

Most real mall ninjas don't step foot anywhere their knife would be needed so you being on a hike kinda tosses that insult out
 
A lot of comments get tossed out without regard for someone's join date. While you don't need a thick skin per say, its always worth remembering that that other person doesn't really know you, so their comment doesn't need to be personal. Of course if you start taking it that way, well, it won't go well. But hey, that's this cesspool we call the internet, jump right in, the water's fine. (also some of the critters in here have been around since usenet or before, so its not quite the same as grannie's facebook bridge club)
 
slyraven said:
Getting different views and opinions is fun. Getting called a mall ninja well that's just wrong and more of an aggressive attack on one's knife choice.

Most real mall ninjas don't step foot anywhere their knife would be needed so you being on a hike kinda tosses that insult out
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It's probs because of the name of the knife and the fact it's a tanto...

I just like tantos, and I didn't notice my knife perform any less than a bowie for example.
gadgetgeek said:
A lot of comments get tossed out without regard for someone's join date. While you don't need a thick skin per say, its always worth remembering that that other person doesn't really know you, so their comment doesn't need to be personal. Of course if you start taking it that way, well, it won't go well. But hey, that's this cesspool we call the internet, jump right in, the water's fine. (also some of the critters in here have been around since usenet or before, so its not quite the same as grannie's facebook bridge club)
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And this thread is regarding people in real life, not the forum members.

Forum members on here seem to be quite open minded regarding knives, unlike online bushcraft comunities calling tanto knives as cancer and anyone owning them either psycho or mall ninja 😂
 
EatingSarma said:
It's probs because of the name of the knife and the fact it's a tanto...

I just like tantos, and I didn't notice my knife perform any less than a bowie for example.

And this thread is regarding people in real life, not the forum members.

Forum members on here seem to be quite open minded regarding knives, unlike online bushcraft comunities calling tanto knives as cancer and anyone owning them either psycho or mall ninja 😂
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At this stage in the day, I tend to comment fairly generally. I also sometimes lose track of the thread/point of someone's post. Anyway, glad that whatever you have going for you is working out, there is a sure shortage of that sort of thing in the world today.
 
I can see the tip of the tanto being quite a bit stronger than a bowie blade. It would be great for prying and digging up snails or grubs from wood and such. The more I look at the Warcraft tanto the more I would like to have one.
 
d762nato said:
I can see the tip of the tanto being quite a bit stronger than a bowie blade. It would be great for prying and digging up snails or grubs from wood and such. The more I look at the Warcraft tanto the more I would like to have one.
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Stronger tip is the main reason why I love tantos.

You just don't need to worry about snapping it off.

And the GSM is changing the design and ditching 3V for warcraft tanto, so if you plan to get one - do it while you can, because the 4034 abomination now costs more than 3V version that I got on some kind of deal back in 2020. I'm scared to even think how much will san mai version cost if it ever hits the market...
 
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