Warranties Have Broken Me!!

AdamFuzzyballs

AdamFuzzyballs

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Well I've had an epiphany tonight.. I realized that I have literally become more obsessed with warranties than the knife they protect. In the beginning, I didn't care, I bought knives because I liked the knife. Then, as I learned more I began to not only purchase the knife, but also "buy the company", as in I selected the company I gave business to based on what I perceive as worthy merit. Somehow along the way (I guess because great companies generally have great warranties), I began to only purchase knives if they had a "no questions asked" warranty. Of course that limits me to a few major brands- esee, survive!, sykco, etc.
But tonight, I've realized how that has probably ruined many a good blade for me. And it's so silly because I've never even needed warranty work, even on my hardest users. So I've decided to try and wean myself off slowly, looking into brands with a less explicit warranty. Truth be told 90% of companies today will warranty most everything short of intentional destruction, but I guess it's the peace of mind I get knowing I CAN be stupid and get a blade fixed.

So, hopefully I can expand into new realms of cutlery, without so much focus on the protective aspect, but more on the knife and company. Does anybody else ever have this problem?
 
I have the exact opposite problems with everything I buy. I void warranties.

My wireless routers lasted a week mainly because thats how long it took for the heat sinks to come in. Knives get disassembled quite quickly to be cleaned and put back together with more attention to fit/finish than from the factory. And the list goes on for quite awhile. I don't know how you can live with warranties, things get so much better once you void them.
 
I also like buying products that have an ironclad warranty. It just makes me feel like the company actually has some faith in the product they are selling. If I'm buying a cheap work knife, I don't care, but for the more high end stuff, I prefer to deal with companies they stand behind their products.
 
This is a good example of something I have posted in here before--how obsession with an aspect of the overall, be it steel, warranty or whatever, can remove a lot of the joy from the hobby.

A warranty is a plug-in factor...to the overall. Just like steel, brand name, etc. should be.

Hope you are able to rid yourself of it. There are too many nice knives out there these days to cloud things over with classroom philosophy theoreticals.

Or as we say here in The Sprawl, 'Don't overthink it.'
 
AdamFuzzyballs said:
I began to only purchase knives if they had a "no questions asked" warranty. Of course that limits me to a few major brands- esee, survive!, sykco, etc.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but Survive knives does not a no questions asked warranty like the others. I own Survive knives, but I could have sworn that was a negative point to that brand, and really the only negative as they use a great steel and a great design.
 
Cobalt said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but Survive knives does not a no questions asked warranty like the others. I own Survive knives, but I could have sworn that was a negative point to that brand, and really the only negative as they use a great steel and a great design.
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I haven't looked in a while, but the last I'd heard of it was in a video in which Guy said that he covers batonning and hard use, but even if you broke a S! In a stupid way he would replace it because that's just the way he is. I guess you're right about it not being "no questions asked", but you're extremely likely to get a replacement if you break one[emoji106]
 
Remember though, the warranty is only as good as the company behind it. I've dealt with a lot of businesses that started with good intentions, and went bankrupt trying to deal with warranty issues. The warranty is no good if the company closed years ago.
 
I am not interested in brands with "no question asked" warranty: I do not want to pay for somebody's else stupidity.
 
Poez said:
I am not interested in brands with "no question asked" warranty: I do not want to pay for somebody's else stupidity.
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That's how I feel. Eventually it's going to catch up with them and that's about the day I will need to use that warranty. I read one warranty will replace a knife if you put it in a vice and break it with a cheater bar, but they won't replace one from plain wear and tear wearing it completely out? I had to read it again. So if you just plain wear out one of their knives you better put it in a vice and snap it in two, or you won't be getting any warranty replacement. I'd rather not play that game.
 
Just curious, is there a consensus between warranty and normal wear and tear? I feel like people confuse the two.

Is it a case by case basis?
 
Badger Blades will warranty the blade for the life of the maker, and his warranty explicitly says that if you break your blade while chopping a car engine in half he will replace it no questions asked, because he designed his blades to be able to chop a car up. I think Zombie Tools has same warranty. All be told, my warranties on most everything I own is voided in less than a few days.
 
I just buy knives I like. :)
If it has an awesome warranty, awesome. :thumbup:
If it doesn't have a warranty, whatever.
 
Poez said:
I am not interested in brands with "no question asked" warranty: I do not want to pay for somebody's else stupidity.
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Why not, you already do that with your socialized health care?:D

Isn't that why our tax rates are so high? we pay for others stupidity.

But I get what you are saying. Not sure that knife makers charge more because they may need to replace blades. I think they feel that it is unlikely that they will need to due to the quality of their product.
 
Bob6794 said:
I have the exact opposite problems with everything I buy. I void warranties.

My wireless routers lasted a week mainly because thats how long it took for the heat sinks to come in. Knives get disassembled quite quickly to be cleaned and put back together with more attention to fit/finish than from the factory. And the list goes on for quite awhile. I don't know how you can live with warranties, things get so much better once you void them.
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Tell me about it! I just found out the extended warrantee on my car is voided for all engine issues because I change my own oil! They want to know the oil is being changed, so I keep the receipts for oil and filters every time I change oil, but they can't cover parts that see "self service," only if it is serviced by a shop.
 
Misc questions

Who has the better warranty, Kia or Lexus? Who has the better product?

Is a product with no warranty necessarily of low quality? Loveless custom knife? A Masamune sword? A Warenski, Moran, or Scagel knife?

Isn't, a warranty, as stated, just one factor in determining overall value?
 
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