Warranty Question - Military

shane

shane

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I have a plain edge Military that I have EDC'd for the las 5 years. I was cutting a box open the other day and the blade broke in half at the thumb hole. I have emailed Spyderco and they said to send it in for evaluation. Do you thing they will honor the warranty? The liner lock is completely work down too, to the point that the blade is wobbling.

shane
 
They seem to have pretty good customer service and I have seen them fix a lot of blades they were not obligated to fix due to abuse. Please post some pictures of this knife as this is the second Military I have seen break this month. I am starting to worry about my military now.
 
shane said:
I have a plain edge Military that I have EDC'd for the las 5 years. I was cutting a box open the other day and the blade broke in half at the thumb hole. I have emailed Spyderco and they said to send it in for evaluation. Do you thing they will honor the warranty? The liner lock is completely work down too, to the point that the blade is wobbling.

shane
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Check out "Bummer" down the list. He had a CF BG-42 Military that snapped in the same place as yours while he was opening a cardboard box. I think Sal is taking care of it.
 
Here are the pics. I was just worried that it would be evaluated and then i would be told that it was abuse because it wasn't.

shane
 
Hey Sal maybe the hole in the Military needs to be smaller like the Endura 4. I have been looking at mine a lot lately and I dont think this blade is very strong with such a big hole.
 
Looks just like the other one. Different steel though-right? Not the BG-42. The Military has been around quit a while. So have cardboard boxes. Two back to back. Snapped in the same place. Where's number three? I know Spyderco will want to see. Sorry for the loss.
 
I think the Bummer link is two below this one. I know Sal and the WR department at Spyderco are helping him out. Have you called Spyderco yet?
 
OK, so either the hole is just to big, and it weakens the blade too much, in which case it would be a design flaw, or theres a problem with the steel.

I can't see it being a design flaw, because many members have used there millies hard.....

I dunno...... :foot:
 
I was cutting a box open the other day and the blade broke in half at the thumb hole.
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Cutting made it break in half? That's a new one.:)

Seems like a design flaw would have showed up long before now. Especially on a 10 year old knife. Prying the knife hard enough to snap it isn't as easy as it seems. I'd love to see the lab results.

I think it's a bit early to begin blaming bad batches of steel, and design flaws. Joe
 
I am concerned about our boys in Iraq, who were given this knife as a recommendation from Sal. I hope they don't die over there because of these failures.
 
I own and have used HARD Millies in ATS-34, S30V and 440V (my favorite) and have had zero problems. I see this as a lateral pressure issue, whether the owner realized it or not.
I have tortured my various mil's for years now in the field- batoning, chopping, using as an ice pick, SD practice, opening cans of food, breaking down cardboard, cutting co-ax cable, etc, etc.....ad nauseaum

BK6
 
razcob said:
I am concerned about our boys in Iraq, who were given this knife as a recommendation from Sal. I hope they don't die over there because of these failures.
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Wow! That's quite a stretch, and I don't mean the Spyderco designed hunting knife! You might be on to something here.:rolleyes: I guess, by your logic, the Navy SEALs are also in grave danger, seing as how I've seen a thread or two about broken Cold Steel SRKs, and according to Cold Steel, that is the knife issued to the SEALs at BUD/S. Heck, we might just lose the war because of a couple posts about Al Mar SERE 2Ks and Emerson Commanders (also carried by soldiers) that failed a few spine whack tests.:jerkit:


3G
 
I am concerned about our boys in Iraq, who were given this knife as a recommendation from Sal. I hope they don't die over there because of these failures.
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I knew this would bring the trolls out.
 
It's possible the blade had a micro fracture that just took time to break apart. It happens every once in a while, even with the best of steel.
I remember reading about Swamp Rat knives and how they check for micro fractures on each and every blade. Something that's not quite feasible on the scale of manufacturing that Spyderco does.
 
ashtxsniper said:
Hey Sal maybe the hole in the Military needs to be smaller like the Endura 4. I have been looking at mine a lot lately and I dont think this blade is very strong with such a big hole.
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I mentioned this in the Bummer post. Sal replied with the following answer:
Hi IUKE,

We've been making knives with 14mm opening holes for many years with no probs. We've not found the size of the hole to be as important as the amount of steel in the cross section.

sal
 
darthsoaker said:
OK, so either the hole is just to big, and it weakens the blade too much, in which case it would be a design flaw, or theres a problem with the steel.

I can't see it being a design flaw, because many members have used there millies hard.....

I dunno...... :foot:
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Problem with the steel? This has happened with two different blade steels. Design flaw? I'm looking at at my Millie, there is not a heck of a lot of metal in the cross section of a flat ground blade with a 14mm hole. These were not designed to be prybars, so perhaps not a design flaw:confused:
 
Well Joe, people like you are the reason I worry about warranties not being honored. No matter what the lab results show, I KNOW how it broke and it shouldn't have.

The main use for my knife is to cut boxes down to fit in the recycle dumpster. I was cutting a large box from top to bottom and it snapped. I use the right tool for the right job and do not use knives a pry bars. If I broke it in any other way but cutting, I wouldn't be trying to get it replaced.

shane

The Mastiff said:
Cutting made it break in half? That's a new one.:)

Seems like a design flaw would have showed up long before now. Especially on a 10 year old knife. Prying the knife hard enough to snap it isn't as easy as it seems. I'd love to see the lab results.

I think it's a bit early to begin blaming bad batches of steel, and design flaws. Joe
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