washes on the new police 3 pivot?

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Just got my new police 3 g2 this morning and it is indeed very nice. Can't find any flaws whatsoever. Opens and closes very smooth and slick. Was looking real close at the pivot and I believe it must have washers but they must be really thin and small. Anyone know for sure if it has them? Thanks:)
 
Spyderco doesn't use washers on the Caly3 so it is possible that the Police3 does not either. Sal says it is much harder to make a knife that doesn't need washers...
 
Well its got steel liners, so I would hope it does. Steel on steel I would say is not conducive to a copacetic working pivot.
 
DRod said:
Well its got steel liners, so I would hope it does. Steel on steel I would say is not conducive to a copacetic working pivot.
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I guess the pivots on My Caly III and Ocelot shouldn't work then, right?;)

Neither of the knives I just mentioned have washers (I know, I've taken the blades out), yet they open and close very smoothly.

Regards,
3G
 
THG said:
If it doesn't have washers, would putting some in hurt?
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I may have misunderstood you, THG. Were you talking about putting them in personally, or were you talking about Spyderco adding washers to the Police model? My answer was in regards to Spyderco adding washers. If you wanted to do it on your own, you would end up voiding out your warranty, and I doubt you'd see an increase in performance to justify it, so again, it would hurt.

Regards,
3G
 
3Guardsmen said:
I guess the pivots on My Caly III and Ocelot shouldn't work then, right?;)

Neither of the knives I just mentioned have washers (I know, I've taken the blades out), yet they open and close very smoothly.

Regards,
3G
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really?

I don't own either but damn. That just doesn't make much sense to me and I don't think I would be convinced without handling one.
 
DRod said:

really?

I don't own either but damn. That just doesn't make much sense to me and I don't think I would be convinced without handling one.
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I hear you. I was a bit shocked when I first found out as well, but Spyderco definitely knows what they're doing. The steel in the liners (or handle) is different from the steel in the blade, and the fact that they are dissimilar prevents the two steels from galling (sticking). What's also surprising is that my Caly 3 and ocelot are a lot smoother opening and closing than some of my knives with PB washers!:eek:

I agree, it's strange. Try 'em and see!

Regards,
3G
 
There was a time in the deep dark distant past when washers were not used and pocket knives were pinned together...yet they still functioned flawlessly. Now there is a whole generation who believe you need washers and a take apart knife...
 
zenheretic said:
There was a time in the deep dark distant past when washers were not used and pocket knives were pinned together...yet they still functioned flawlessly. Now there is a whole generation who believe you need washers and a take apart knife...
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Unfortunately, I think most of us knifenuts, right here on the forums, ARE that generation.:D However, we're learning (the hard way sometimes).;)

Regards,
3G
 
zenheretic said:
There was a time in the deep dark distant past when washers were not used and pocket knives were pinned together...yet they still functioned flawlessly. Now there is a whole generation who believe you need washers and a take apart knife...
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Yeah I guess thats me.
:o
 
3Guardsmen said:
Unfortunately, I think most of us knifenuts, right here on the forums, ARE that generation.:D However, we're learning (the hard way sometimes).;)

Regards,
3G
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DRod said:
Yeah I guess thats me.
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Don't get me wrong; nothing wrong with enjoying those aspects. :)

However, if you stand back and read with a critical eye, many threads on bladeforums illustrate the error of taking apart a pocket knife (for many people ;) ). You may begin to realize that maybe a pinned knife isn't so bad afterall (for many applications). You will never lose a screw for one thing...and never take one apart without being able to put one together again (all the king's horses and men). :p
 
zenheretic said:
However, if you stand back and read with a critical eye, many threads on bladeforums illustrate the error of taking apart a pocket knife (for many people ;) ). You may begin to realize that maybe a pinned knife isn't so bad afterall (for many applications). You will never lose a screw for one thing...and never take one apart without being able to put one together again (all the king's horses and men). :p
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I got sand in my knife, once. I really had to take it apart to get it all out. Also, I like to oil the tang and washers directly rather than try to leak it in while the knife is all together.

That's my reason for wanting a knife that can be taken apart.
 
I got sand in my Caly3 once. Just put it under a faucet and manipulated it a bit, then relubed. Good as new!
 
OK, I took it apart just to see. It does have bronze washers but they are tiny and so so thin.
 
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It is very difficult to make a folder without washers (like the Caly 3), and only one of Spyderco's Japanese makers has the ability to do it. Spyders made by them say Japan on the tang, rather than Seki City Japan.
 
catamount123 said:
It is very difficult to make a folder without washers (like the Caly 3), and only one of Spyderco's Japanese makers has the ability to do it. Spyders made by them say Japan on the tang, rather than Seki City Japan.
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Did not know that! Thanks for the info! :eek::thumbup:
 
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