Water bottle/canteen recommendations please

Thomas Linton said:
BPA is bad shit. Among other things, it is a mutagen that leads to horrible birth defects.

As with tobacco, industry-financed studies said BPA was safe, like candy. All other studies consistently found it to be a severe health risk.

Many first world and even third-world governments have banned its appearance in the food chain, but the U.S. still allows it in linings of food cans (colored white) on the ground that low-level exposure is acceptable.

No research has established a "safe" exposure to BPA in any population.
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and by the same token, no research as established at what point BPA MAY be harmful. I have always thought this was a chimera, a boogyman thought up by a discredited EPA.
 
There certainly have been bogymen.

Then again, the EPA is resisting a ban. Cannot discuss without getting into political.

If it's all a scam, what have you lost? Less choice of rigid plastic containers. for one thing. Big deal to you?

If the nations, states, and scientists who think it's a risk are right, what could you, or your wife or children, lose?

http://corporate.dukemedicine.org/n...t-cancer-cells-diminishes-effect-of-treatment

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/2014/jul/bpa-mammary-glands

"In the European Union, all member countries had to remove baby bottles containing BPA from store shelves by June 1, 2011."

"Eaton said he understands the caution of FDA and other agencies. “Animal data do indicate there just might be something there. While there might not be, no one wants to sit around and wait for ‘the body count.’ That’s not what we want to do from a public health perspective.”

"Part of the problem, said Fenton, is that conducting clinical trials that expose humans to potentially hazardous materials is impossible, so science is limited to observational studies. “They want to corroborate existing data and be certain it has human relevancy. They certainly did not say the data were faulty.”

"We also believe that until scientific research can establish what actually causes the diseases with which smoking has been statistically associated, it would be unfair to advocate any law prohibiting the sale of cigarettes" (RJ Reynolds, 1987)

"Scientists have not proven that cigarette smoke or any of the thousands of its constituents as found in cigarette smoke cause human disease" (Tobacco Institute, 1979, p2).
 
I have a platypus backpack/bladder thing but find myself re-using soda bottles anyway. It is a simpler system to refill and I can scale it up or down easier to meet my water needs (anywhere from a single 0.5l bottle to multiple 1.5l bottles).

With multiple bottles I can also share without exchanging bodily fluids with others... I just give them a bottle. For other gear I watch the weight of my pack, but I don't mind carrying extra water.
 
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BPA free Nalgene bottles for me. I also have a SS Nalgene. I like it, but it's just too heavy for backpacking.


From the Nalgene website:

A Nalgene bottle made from surgical grade 316 (18/10) stainless steel. Unlike aluminum bottles our bottles have no lining of any kind.

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I used two 64oz Sawyer squeeze bags and a Gatorade bottle on my last trip. I'm planning to swap the Gatorade bottle for a SmartWater bottle with the sport cap. The cap can be used for back flushing my mini and as part of my minimalist gravity filter system I'm going to be trying out. I'll probably switch to clear bags from Platypus or EverNew at some point for the ability to see the water and purification via sunlight.
 
I'm closer to Thomas Linton on this one. The discussion of BPA fits into a much larger discussion of ubiquitous use of estrogen mimicks. But that's a kettle of fish much bigger than Nalgene.

As I understand it (could be wrong, often am) the issue with BPA (and other chemical release) from plastic is made worse with heat. I carry a stainless bottle for brewing tea and a plastic water bottle for cold water only.

For the OP, if I were in your situation I would just get stainless (or Ti) bottles and give up on the nesting criteria. Personally, nesting water bottles with other stuff would drive me bonkers. I stow fire stuff in with my mess kit which is buried in the pack. Water bottles stay on the outside of my pack or in side pockets and get the snot beat out of them.
 
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