Water Bottle Safty, which are the best and which are the worst?

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What is the safest daily water bottle.

Nalgenes have the BPA, which makes them bad

Sigg's are Aluminum, which is bad.

what else is there. I need something thats strong for camping and hiking and well for everyday life.
 
Stainless steel.

"The Klean Kanteen (27 oz) Stainless Steel water bottle is a safe, environmentally friendly option for on-the-go hydration. The stainless steel construction is completely non-leaching and toxin-free, requiring no additional inner lining to ensure safe drinking. Weighing only 8 ounces, the (27 oz) Stainless Steel water bottle is surprisingly durable in spite of its lightweight construction.

A non-leaching polypropylene lid has an integrated attachment loop, allowing the Klean Kanteen (27 oz) Stainless Steel water bottle to be lashed quickly and easily to your backpack."

I googled and found a billion sites with that company's products.

mike
 
I must ask if Aluminum is just so bad, whats up with every drink in the world being served in an Aluminum Can.
 
Well folks, I've got an opinion on the matter..

Where I work, we've been selling different items, and from my personal experience, one specific maker has won out, IMHO.

I've tried both the Laken (www.laken.es) and the Klean Kanteen water bottles, and I like the Laken ones. The main body of them is aluminum, but it has a BPA free coating on the inside which means no contact with aluminum and none of the harmful plastic crud either.

The Klean Kanteens are also BPA free, of course, but from my usage, I've found them to taste metallic, especially if drinking right out of the bottle. Now, some might not mind that metallic taste, but it's not up my alley.

If I were to go out and buy a water bottle right now, it would be a Laken.

They're probably not the easiest to find, but they're top shelf any way you slice it.

Travis

(If the website for Laken is too spam-like, just let me know!)
 
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Everything gives you cancer
Everything
Everything gives you cancer
Theres no cure, theres no answer
Everything gives you cancer

Dont work by night
Dont play by day
Youll feel all right
But you will pay

No caffeine
No protein
No booze or
Nicotine
Remember -

Everything
Everything gives you cancer
Everything
Everything gives you cancer
Theres no cure, theres no answer
Everything gives you cancer


-- Joe Jackson from his Night and Day album


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The simple fact is that no bottle is that bad for short-term storage of water. Whether it's aluminum or lead or BPA, it takes time for these chemicals to dissolve into the water. These bottles are intended to carry water for a day or two. Use them as intended and they are all fine.
 
Raincoat said:
Nalgenes have the BPA, which makes them bad

Sigg's are Aluminum, which is bad.
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Junk science.

Here, by the way, is a recent list of things thought to cause cancer in humans:

"Acetaldehyde, acrylamide, acrylonitril, abortion, agent orange, alar, alcohol, air pollution, aldrin, alfatoxin, arsenic, arsine, asbestos, asphalt fumes, atrazine, AZT, baby food, barbequed meat, benzene, benzidine, benzopyrene, beryllium, beta-carotene, betel nuts, birth control pills, bottled water, bracken, bread, breasts, bus stations, calcium channel blockers, cadmium, captan, carbon black, carbon tetrachloride, careers for women, casual sex, car fumes, celery, charred foods, cooked foods, chewing gum, Chinese food, Chinese herbal supplements, chips, chloramphenicol, chlordane, chlorinated camphene, chlorinated water, chlorodiphenyl, chloroform, cholesterol, low cholesterol, chromium, coal tar, coffee, coke ovens, crackers, creosote, cyclamates, dairy products, deodorants, depleted uranium, depression, dichloryacetylene, DDT, dieldrin, diesel exhaust, diet soda, dimethyl sulphate, dinitrotouluene, dioxin, dioxane, epichlorhydrin, ethyle acrilate, ethylene, ethilene dibromide, ethnic beliefs,ethylene dichloride, Ex-Lax, fat, fluoridation, flying, formaldehyde, free radicals, french fries, fruit, gasoline, genes, gingerbread, global warming, gluteraldehyde, granite, grilled meat, Gulf war, hair dyes, hamburgers, heliobacter pylori, hepatitis B virus, hexachlorbutadiene, hexachlorethane, high bone mass, HPMA, HRT, hydrazine, hydrogen peroxide, incense, infertility, jewellery, Kepone, kissing, lack of exercise, laxatives, lead, left handedness, Lindane, Listerine, low fibre diet, magnetic fields, malonaldehyde, mammograms, manganese, marijuana, methyl bromide, methylene chloride, menopause, microwave ovens, milk hormones, mixed spices, mobile phones, MTBE, nickel, night lighting, night shifts, nitrates, not breast feeding, not having a twin, nuclear power plants, Nutrasweet, obesity, oestrogen, olestra, olive oil, orange juice, oxygenated gasoline, oyster sauce, ozone, ozone depletion, passive smoking, PCBs, peanuts, pesticides, pet birds, plastic IV bags, polio vaccine, potato crisps (chips), power lines, proteins, Prozac, PVC, radio masts, radon, railway sleepers, red meat, Roundup, saccharin, salt, sausage, selenium, semiconductor plants, shellfish, sick buildings, soy sauce, stress, strontium, styrene, sulphuric acid, sun beds, sunlight, sunscreen, talc, tetrachloroethylene, testosterone, tight bras, toast, toasters, tobacco, tooth fillings, toothpaste (with fluoride or bleach), train stations, trichloroethylene, under-arm shaving, unvented stoves, uranium, UV radiation, vegetables, vinyl bromide, vinyl chloride, vinyl fluoride, vinyl toys, vitamins, vitreous fibres, wallpaper, weedkiller (2-4 D), welding fumes, well water, weight gain, winter, wood dust, work, x-rays."

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/cancer list.htm

Better avoid all of them, too.

;)

maximus otter
 
I used to work at Nalgene here in Rochester, and the whole idea that a bottle labeled with a "#7" is a lexan bottle with BPA, while those such as #1, #2,......#6 are not is false.

Those numbers are just the number of the molds. Depending on the machine it can make so many bottle at the same time, usually 7 sometimes more and sometimes less. But the "#7" is just the position of the bottle. The bottles numbered #1, #2,......#6 in that batch are all exactly the same.
 
Are people still worrying over the nonsense, NONscience terrorism over BPA and lexan drinking bottles?

Oy.

On the bright side, the next scare with no scientific or reality basis will replace it soon, as it will so-called "global warming."

Until then, I shall continue to use my lexan bottles and exhale CO2.
 
Raincoat said:
I used to work at Nalgene here in Rochester, and the whole idea that a bottle labeled with a "#7" is a lexan bottle with BPA, while those such as #1, #2,......#6 are not is false.

Those numbers are just the number of the molds. Depending on the machine it can make so many bottle at the same time, usually 7 sometimes more and sometimes less. But the "#7" is just the position of the bottle. The bottles numbered #1, #2,......#6 in that batch are all exactly the same.
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From the Nalgene-Outdoors.com site
"Most plastic containers are marked (usually on the bottom) with a number within a triangle with arrows - commonly known as a recycling symbol. These numbers, known as the resin identification coding system, were created in 1988 to facilitate recycling programs across the country. These recycling numbers can range from #1 to #7, depending on the type of plastic. The #7 recycling label is a catchall indicator for plastics made with a resin other than those in the #1 to #6 designations, or made of more than one resin. The #7 category not only includes polycarbonate, but also includes compostable plastics made of organic material and other types of plastic that do not necessarily contain BPA (Bisphenol-A). For example, our new Everyday™ line manufactured with Eastman's Tritan™ copolyester is a #7, but does not include BPA."

For a great drinking bottle selection page, see Nalgene's comparison chart.
 
Raincoat said:
I used to work at Nalgene here in Rochester, and the whole idea that a bottle labeled with a "#7" is a lexan bottle with BPA, while those such as #1, #2,......#6 are not is false.

Those numbers are just the number of the molds. Depending on the machine it can make so many bottle at the same time, usually 7 sometimes more and sometimes less. But the "#7" is just the position of the bottle. The bottles numbered #1, #2,......#6 in that batch are all exactly the same.
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I know that this has already been addressed, but this is very wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin_identification_code
 
There may be more than one number code on a bottle ! One is found in or adjacent to a triangle. This number is to identify the plastic.... You may also find numbers that indicate date of manufacture etc.....We'll just have to wait to see how the new Eastman Copolyester will work and what it has in it !! Nalgene is also marketing the stainless steel bottles !!
 
i bought a guyot stainless steel bottle. it is amazing. it is the same size as a standard nalgene, uses the nalgene lid (if you want), and it is made of surgical stainless steel. it was pricey, but it is great so far.
 
rhino said:
Are people still worrying over the nonsense, NONscience terrorism over BPA and lexan drinking bottles?

Oy.

On the bright side, the next scare with no scientific or reality basis will replace it soon, as it will so-called "global warming."

Until then, I shall continue to use my lexan bottles and exhale CO2.
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If you are so convinced global warming is fiction, I'd love to hear your explanation for why the Antarctic ice shelf is starting to break off and fall into the ocean, and a number of other phenomena that are linked to global warming. This is a serious long term problem for the human race. It *ISN'T* proven that it's our fault, but that's a little bit like arguing that it was the driver's fault a car ran you over crossing the street at a crosswalk. Sure, it's his fault, but you're still a road waffle.

Also, there is totally real science behind the BPA/Lexan thing.

Just not very GOOD science.

BPA is a chemical harmful to humans, yes, but the quantities that leach out of a container made out of lexan are ridiculously small. The issue is not that there is no scientific backing. The issue is that whenever people hear "Chemical A causes cancer", they react with "OMG BAN IT NOW!" The same thing happened with phenolphthalein in Ex-Lax a few years ago.

Many, many, MANY chemicals cause cancer. A number of them are found in practically every item of food you eat. People are just afraid of synthetic chemicals because chemistry is witchcraft to the average person, and people fear what they don't understand.

In conclusion, go ahead and use your plastic Nalgene bottles and aluminum Siggs. It's not going to kill you.

... but those Guyot bottles sure are sexy.
 
Khalnath said:
...the Antarctic ice shelf is starting to break off and fall into the ocean...
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Oh no! Mammoths will become extinct and we'll all starve!

Hang on a minute...

maximus otter (from England, where it's 1° cooler than it was in 1066 AD, when the Normans invaded)
 
That's right and if the polar bears didn't become extinct then why would they become extinct now ? BTW polar bear numbers have increased here in the last 25 years !
 
Khalnath said:
I'd love to hear your explanation for why the Antarctic ice shelf is starting to break off and fall into the ocean, ...
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First of all, "explanations" aren't always easy to come by. As H.L.Mencken said, for every human problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, ... and wrong. That true science, collect-your-data-before-coming-to-a-conclusion-science, hasn't blurted out a sound byte to satisfy people who need their opinions pre-packaged for them, does not prove a popular junk science contention is true.

However, since you ask ...

Antarctica is gaining ice cover, not losing it. What it is losing are the peripheral ice sheets extruded from this cover on the actual landmass, floating alongside it, which eventually break off. Ever see glaciers calving?
 
maximus otter said:
Oh no! Mammoths will become extinct and we'll all starve!
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On a lake shore by a glacier
In a Minnesota clime,
Dwelt a Pleistocene old-timer,
And his daughter, Clementine.

Oh, her teeth were big as tombstones
And her nose was platyrrhine,
Mighty spacious and prognathous
Were the jaws of Clementine.

Drove she mammoths to the water
Every morning just at nine,
Stubbed her toe upon an esker,
Fell into the freezing brine.

Blubber lips among the pack ice,
Blowing steam and spouting slime,
But alas she was no whale cow,
So subsided Clementine.

Counting varves and sifting gravel,
Bones and beads, one at a time,
Papa Jenks put her together,
Fossil flapper, Clementine.

(( I think this is the whole song. I remember it from an anthropology text we used in the early 60s.
If anyone can find the entire original or a reference (book title) for me, I would be grateful. :) ))
 
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