Water Bottle Safty, which are the best and which are the worst?

sodak said:
One thing that I've heard is that it's not good to re-use water bottle that you buy bottled water in. They are designed for single use, but I can't remember why.

I prefer Nalgene, although I want to try the Guyots also. I want something that I can boil water in, which rules out the Siggs, thanks for the heads up!
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Supposedly the plastic used is so cheap and porous that bacteria will build up over repeated uses.
 
enderwiggin said:
Supposedly the plastic used is so cheap and porous that bacteria will build up over repeated uses.
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That one isn't true either. There would be a lot less misinformation in the world if people didn't keep repeating everything they read without bothering to find out if it's true or not....
 
Cougar Allen said:
That one isn't true either. There would be a lot less misinformation in the world if people didn't keep repeating everything they read without bothering to find out if it's true or not....
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True. I didn't mean it was the case, I just thought he wanted to know why they were supposed to be bad to re-use.

Either way, I'm pretty much screwed. I use plastic water bottles throughout the day, every day, and one of two Camelbak's on bike rides, hikes and walks 3-6 times a week.
 
That one isn't true either. There would be a lot less misinformation in the world if people didn't keep repeating everything they read without bothering to find out if it's true or not....
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If people didn't repeat anything they did not know to be true, there would be damned little conversation going on.

I've used Nalgene's for about 15 years, and so far I haven't died, so I'll continue to use them.

Regarding plastic water bottles used in retail sale, they are filled with water and then sit around for some period of time before or after purchase. What kind of chemical breakdown can occur after you drink the water that can't occur prior to purchase?
 
A student did a bad study which concluded disposable bottles could break down and release a toxic chemical after a couple of years, long after the expiration date on the bottle. That was the kind of news that sells so it was hyped all over the media, a top story. Later real scientists who knew what they were doing duplicated his work and found no trace of the chemical the student claimed to have found. That was not alarming, so not a top story. The media covered it but they didn't hype it all over everywhere.

In the middle of all this, some of the people who were asked what all the foofaraw was about and did not know the answer ... made up an answer. Wull, I guess it might be that if you keep reusing them bacteria might build up ... duh ... I guess ... durrrrrrr....

There are still some people who didn't make up that answer themselves but read it somewhere and keep repeating it. Maybe there always will be....

Some people who saw the original alarming story about a toxic chemical, and either didn't see the less hyped story that the original story turned out to be false, or saw it but didn't get a real strong impression in their memories, keep repeating the original story.

Once an urban legend starts there doesn't seem to be any way to stop it spreading....
 
One day at work, I accidentally droped my Nalgene bottle off of a 280ft wind turbine, and It Bounced about 30ft in the air!!!!
I still use it to day!
 
Cougar Allen said:
A student did a bad study which concluded disposable bottles could break down and release a toxic chemical after a couple of years, long after the expiration date on the bottle. That was the kind of news that sells so it was hyped all over the media, a top story. Later real scientists who knew what they were doing duplicated his work and found no trace of the chemical the student claimed to have found. That was not alarming, so not a top story. The media covered it but they didn't hype it all over everywhere.

In the middle of all this, some of the people who were asked what all the foofaraw was about and did not know the answer ... made up an answer. Wull, I guess it might be that if you keep reusing them bacteria might build up ... duh ... I guess ... durrrrrrr....

There are still some people who didn't make up that answer themselves but read it somewhere and keep repeating it. Maybe there always will be....

Some people who saw the original alarming story about a toxic chemical, and either didn't see the less hyped story that the original story turned out to be false, or saw it but didn't get a real strong impression in their memories, keep repeating the original story.

Once an urban legend starts there doesn't seem to be any way to stop it spreading....
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I don't know how many other ways I can apologize for repeating some piece of general information, true or false, in response to a question.

But making me out to be an absolute moron, after several posts explaining why I repeated what I repeated seems pretty harsh to me.
 
I always did think the reusing bottles issue was suspect, although I hadn't looked into it either way.

I figured it was because if people didn't wash them after using them for a while the bacteria from your mouth could contaminate the water and that for some reason they couldn't be washed. I generally refill them several times until I forget\lose a bottle and then get another one.
 
maximus otter said:
Junk science.

Here, by the way, is a recent list of things thought to cause cancer in humans:

"Acetaldehyde, acrylamide, acrylonitril, abortion, agent orange, alar, alcohol, air pollution, aldrin, alfatoxin, arsenic, arsine, asbestos, asphalt fumes, atrazine, AZT, baby food, barbequed meat, benzene, benzidine, benzopyrene, beryllium, beta-carotene, betel nuts, birth control pills, bottled water, bracken, bread, breasts, bus stations, calcium channel blockers, cadmium, captan, carbon black, carbon tetrachloride, careers for women, casual sex, car fumes, celery, charred foods, cooked foods, chewing gum, Chinese food, Chinese herbal supplements, chips, chloramphenicol, chlordane, chlorinated camphene, chlorinated water, chlorodiphenyl, chloroform, cholesterol, low cholesterol, chromium, coal tar, coffee, coke ovens, crackers, creosote, cyclamates, dairy products, deodorants, depleted uranium, depression, dichloryacetylene, DDT, dieldrin, diesel exhaust, diet soda, dimethyl sulphate, dinitrotouluene, dioxin, dioxane, epichlorhydrin, ethyle acrilate, ethylene, ethilene dibromide, ethnic beliefs,ethylene dichloride, Ex-Lax, fat, fluoridation, flying, formaldehyde, free radicals, french fries, fruit, gasoline, genes, gingerbread, global warming, gluteraldehyde, granite, grilled meat, Gulf war, hair dyes, hamburgers, heliobacter pylori, hepatitis B virus, hexachlorbutadiene, hexachlorethane, high bone mass, HPMA, HRT, hydrazine, hydrogen peroxide, incense, infertility, jewellery, Kepone, kissing, lack of exercise, laxatives, lead, left handedness, Lindane, Listerine, low fibre diet, magnetic fields, malonaldehyde, mammograms, manganese, marijuana, methyl bromide, methylene chloride, menopause, microwave ovens, milk hormones, mixed spices, mobile phones, MTBE, nickel, night lighting, night shifts, nitrates, not breast feeding, not having a twin, nuclear power plants, Nutrasweet, obesity, oestrogen, olestra, olive oil, orange juice, oxygenated gasoline, oyster sauce, ozone, ozone depletion, passive smoking, PCBs, peanuts, pesticides, pet birds, plastic IV bags, polio vaccine, potato crisps (chips), power lines, proteins, Prozac, PVC, radio masts, radon, railway sleepers, red meat, Roundup, saccharin, salt, sausage, selenium, semiconductor plants, shellfish, sick buildings, soy sauce, stress, strontium, styrene, sulphuric acid, sun beds, sunlight, sunscreen, talc, tetrachloroethylene, testosterone, tight bras, toast, toasters, tobacco, tooth fillings, toothpaste (with fluoride or bleach), train stations, trichloroethylene, under-arm shaving, unvented stoves, uranium, UV radiation, vegetables, vinyl bromide, vinyl chloride, vinyl fluoride, vinyl toys, vitamins, vitreous fibres, wallpaper, weedkiller (2-4 D), welding fumes, well water, weight gain, winter, wood dust, work, x-rays."

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/cancer list.htm

Better avoid all of them, too.

;)

maximus otter
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Nooooo! Not barbecued meat and breasts!!!!
 
I like Nalgene bottles, they are practically indestructable.
There seems to be alot of rubbish "science" going around these days. People also like to buy this stuff, and it can have bad consequences.
They banned DDT, and malaria is an epidemic...
Also, even worse, is the people spreading the stories, like that idiot who wrote The Seven Pillars of Health, required reading for my school's Health and Wellness class.
(Guess who didn't read it)
That book was pretty much a blame big-corporation and industry rant, with newspaper editorials as sources.
Don't know why that guy has a medical licence.
 
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