Wave haters

I just got The EFC and the wave behaves differntly depening on your pants. I like no brainer consistency, especially in hostile circumstances. So The wave gets a no from me, my humble 2 cents.
 
if ya intend to carry any knife for SD ya should practice enough that drawing /opening is second nature to ya, i just dont see how anyone who has put any time into training with a waved knife is gonna have probs,
 
No Wave Please.

My old fashioned benchmade and emerson knives open plenty fast as it is.

AFCK and CQC7 for 15 years.
 
STR said:
That third knife is my pocket hook. If you imagine a flat L shaped piece of steel that has exaggerated length to make bending them easier, well thats how it starts out. What I used is titanium which you have to heat to cherry red to make each bend. Its a lot of work to make one of those. I then bend it down so it would fold at a 90degree angle and then drilled a hole in it with a #44 drill bit. This is the proper size fora 2-56 screw which is the size screw in most thumb studs including the one in that picture. I first check it to see that it fits and that the hole is in the right place. Remove the thumb stud and screw it down again with longer screw and tightent. Then mark my line where I will make the bend to make the Wave hook that will catch the pocket. I then make that bend and with some finesse and fine tuning after sanding with some drum sanders its a bead blasted and placed on permanently.

You don't need anyones permission to do anything to your own knife no matter what anyone tells you. Believe me I know. I sought legal counsel before doing these and even after being told I could make them for myself I wanted to clear it with the holders of the intellectual property.

When forum members started writing me to do them for them is when it changed. Once again I wrote Ernie Emerson and called Andy Demko and got their permission to copy and use their IP. Nothing wrong with being up front and letting them in on what is happening when its for yourself but its really a waste of their time to make them come to the phone or reply to it if its just for you. Both were more than happy to say have at it in my case because technically to do them for others and charge for it you do need permission. For yourself you don't.

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STR

Thank you for the info on modifynig the knife and that you do not need permission if it is for yourself. I will still say to people that it is Emerson that came up with the idea, because I feel it is the right thing to do. Can't wait to start making that wave!
 
I agree with SIFU completely. Your draw and execution should be achieved through diligent practice. All the more reason why I don't want that "extra variable" of making sure the Wave will catch the pants the way it's supposed to. I would say that my waved knives opened as intended about 90-95% of the time in diferent pants, different body positions and with different overgarments. Now with my non-waved 7A, I've got 100% accuracy no matter what I'm doing or what I'm wearing. Why would I rely on a cool gimmick that worked most of the time when my thumb works all the time? It works for me, the wave works for you. Everybody wins.
 
The "Wave" is a great feature that in due time tends to wear off. I do like the idea of having the "Wave" as an option in case you need it. For general knife use, I just use the opening hole for my Commander Karambit.



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With all due respect for other opinions I think the "wave" is an unnecessary complication in an otherwise excellent knife. Even slightly dangerous - to the owner - occasionally drawing blood or getting stuck in the pocket. So as there are a lot of guys liking it let them have it but as an option. I go for the "non wave" knifes whenever I can.
 
thebladerunr said:
The wave is cool and works great but, I wish it was an option rather than being on all knives.

on my 14 it's more of a pain since I don't want the blade deployed EVERYTIME I pull it out.

I usually have to slide it forward in my pocket before pulling it out. I don't like having to concentrate on pulling on pulling different knives out in different ways.
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I just purchased a CQC-14 and I agree that the wave on this short a blade doesn't seem to work too well and I am getting tired of being soooo careful when taking the knife from my pocket. I may just grind it flat then pull the blade and dura-coat to cover the bare area left.
 
Has anyone recently asked Emerson about this? I did a couple of years ago but seemed reluctant to not produce a knife w/o the wave. (in the model I wanted - I think it was the 8 at the time) They are kick a#$ blades and I'd purchase for sure w/o the wave.
 
up until a few yrs ago most all of his customs were not waved, my custom CQC6 and 8 arent.

probably 99% of folks want the thing, and probably about that % have absolutly no probs with it either.

if ya must have an EKI without it try a specwar, mach1, an early CQC8, a lot of '7s arent waved, the P-Tac isnt, plenty dont have it imho, no reason for any more imho.

i edc one every day and havent ever had a problem.
 
I asked Emerson a few weeks ago about "non wave" knives and they said they don´t really make them anymore except for customs. Sure there are some available here and there but if you want a newer one lets say a HD-7 it´s not possible so the choice is limited. Btw I edc both waved and non waved folders anyway.
 
Me, I like my EKIs without -- which is why I stick to the original non-waved CQC-8.

Now... as for the Wave.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Spyderco/Emerson collaboration P'kal folder, which has a...

...wait for it...

removable, optional, Wave.

-j
 
well, then maybe the pikal is for you, me, i dont care for them or really many other spydies, though i do like the Ti ATR.

imho EKI has spydie beat all the way down for SD folders.

nothing aginst spydie, i do like them, but most to me are more utility oriented.
 
biogon said:
Me, I like my EKIs without -- which is why I stick to the original non-waved CQC-8.

Now... as for the Wave.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Spyderco/Emerson collaboration P'kal folder, which has a...

...wait for it...

removable, optional, Wave.

-j
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aback said:
I asked Emerson a few weeks ago about "non wave" knives and they said they don´t really make them anymore except for customs. Sure there are some available here and there but if you want a newer one lets say a HD-7 it´s not possible so the choice is limited. Btw I edc both waved and non waved folders anyway.
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why couldnt ya simply get a dremel tool and grind it off??
 
That's exactly what I plan to do with my next Emerson. But it would be nicer if I didn't have to jack it up in order for it to suit me. I don't think the Wave is a deal breaker for most anti-wavers, it's just a nuisance.
 
I've got a non-waved '99 CQC7, which is my first EKI knife. I love this knife, it's solid and sharp! I did try a waved CQC7 at a local show and decided very quickly that I didn't like it at all. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I really don't see the need. It also looks like the waved hook could catch on something, I dunno if that's true...

I'm going for a new CQC7 or Commander later this year, I hope the EKI folks continue to offer non-waved versions. I'll stand in line to buy 'em.
 
oh well, poor ernie, folks bitch at him because everything isnt waved, he starts waving most stuff, then he gets it for waving 'em lol, i've been messing with emersons for over 10 yrs now and you folks are the 1st i've seen who disliked the thing.

chocolate and vanilla i suppose.

i still simply do not see any way its a bad thing.
 
Lately I´ve been EDC-ing a Mini Commander SF waved. Very fond of it but nothing is perfect. The other day a CQC 7B SF non wave arrived. Will be interesting to try out. On the wishlist a 7A SF non waved but that might be a little difficult to find. Or even better if the HD-7 comes in A-version.
Anyway Emersons are super knives... and I have a few others as well.
Might be that you never find the perfect one that will be your one and only for the rest of your life. Which is perhaps not so bad...?
 
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