Waving Ritter M2 Dilemma

[akan529]

Hey everyone,
I am currently waiting for my Full Size Ritter M2 to come in the mail but I am trying to make a decision. I could have it waved which would be great cause I'll love the speed of that function however doing that would shave part of the butterfly on the benchmade. I usually like to trade or sell knives aftrer a couple of years and am worried about the value to sell considering this modification has been done. What do yall think? Would you still buy one?

 

[phatch]

No, the wave would make it undesirable to me in a used condition.

Phil

 

[DaveH]

IMO production knives usually loose a significant value as used. We're talking about $125 knife or so right? Wave it and enjoy it.

 

[akan529]

Thanks for the advice

 

[T.K.C.]

It is your knife, do what YOU want to do with it!! If waving it makes YOU happy, then wave it!

 

[Padawan]

If you truly want to "wave" it, then you should. However, if you're at all concerned with reselling the knife in the future (also noting that it is a numbered piece), you will be significantly reducing its value in that respect.

 

[WadeF]

While the Wave is a neat feature, is it really that needed? I don't understand why so many people need to Wave knives that are easy to quickly flip open to begin with.

 

[tknife]

The M2 version will hold it's value, maybe even go up. I'd leave it the way it is if you plan on selling it later.

 

[goldie]

the other problem is the bare steel left after modifying.you;d have to reblacken it......

 

[Quiet Storm]

If I was in the market for a Ritter Grip, I'd pay more for a waved one than for one without a wave. Most people probably wouldn't.

I don't understand why so many people need to Wave knives that are easy to quickly flip open to begin with.

Uhm...maybe because they're open the very second they leave your pocket?

 

[wwells20]

I think it would be like selling a modified automobile, what one person finds desirable another would not. with the right buyer, you "could" increase your profit.

 

[STR]

If the knife is a collector piece and you are worried about the money value of it down the road because you may think you'll resell it later I'd say leave it untouched.

Waves are nice but its a niche market at best and many of those that love the Wave are loyalists to Emerson who are of the mindset that any other Waved knife is like a sacrilege or something.

Waving the knife won't help sell it any faster trust me. Its a personal thing that seems to have no gray area. You either love it or hate it.

While many people say that bead blasting a blade is a no no there are many bead blasted blades out there in the hands of the public holding up just fine. In the event that you did Wave that black blade and the writing and butterfly being cut off at the top bothered you bead blasting the blade would wipe all that off so it would be hardly noticed anymore. You may still see a faint tracing of the patterns but they'd be subdued and not as visible after blasting it.

STR

 

[orthogonal1]

You're knife, do what you want.

That said, I gotta ask why you chose a limited edition for the project? A blade mod at that.

Value will drop like a car's. Reminds me of the pointed tip blue Skirmish I saw. Like new except for the mod, sold for less than half of what I've seen un-moded regular ones go for. And, at least the blade could have been replaced via factory service.

Well, good luck and carpe diem.

 

[JWBirch]

Wow, it disturbs me that this can get this far in without anyone having mentioned that this is an infringement on a design that is permitted for individual use only.
My understanding is that Ernie is real good about letting people make their knives more functional by implementing his idea, but would prefer not to see aftermarket waves re-sold. You could get in trouble selling it later. Not physical trouble, but the trouble of having people of strong moral fiber second guess your character.
A Benchmade M2 Ritter is a knife that anyone could own for life, it is just that good. Incidentally, if you're going to own it for life, then the butterfly is a fine sacrifice for a lifetime of superior performance. Otherwise trade it or sell it to a friend, offline.

The hoopla about selling aftermarket waves isn't an issue of Emerson sycophants, but an issue of loyalty and honor among what is typically more cop/military/fire/rescue/martial arts/bushido people who are more sensitive to a sudden loss of honor than most middle Americans. In these professions your reputation is the most important thing you posess. I hope that makes sense. Here's some quick bushido info if it doesn't.
http://victorian.fortunecity.com/duchamp/410/bsamurai.html#
http://mcel.pacificu.edu/as/students/bushido/bindex.html

 

[puukkoman]

That issue generally pertains to selling for profit.
I'm an Emerson "loyalist," as some of you have said, so consider the following in that light.
If he were to add the Wave mod to a bunch of knives for the purpose of reselling them, that would be unethical. That infringes on Ernie's patents.
If, however, he wants to modify his own knife, he's perfectly free to do so. And, if he later decides to sell his knife, the fact that he modified his knife has little to no bearing on the situation. He's not purposefully stealing Ernie's design with the intent to make a buck; he's modifying his own property, and probably won't be able to recoup the initial cost anyway.

 

[silenthunterstudios]

Do you have a S30V Ritter? If so, use that one if you might resell the M2.

 

[Joe Dirt]

Unless you need a wave because your knife is going to be a 100% self defense knife, don't wave it.

To me waves are not beneficial unless you have it on a 100% SD knife.

They do tear up the back of your pockets real nice though.

Personally I think waves done to non-Emerson knives ruin the knife.

I don't like the waved Endura or Delica from Spyderco either. I think they ruined the knives by putting the wave on.

 

[Franciscomv]

Unless you need a wave because your knife is going to be a 100% self defense knife, don't wave it.

To me waves are not beneficial unless you have it on a 100% SD knife.

They do tear up the back of your pockets real nice though.

Personally I think waves done to non-Emerson knives ruin the knife.

I don't like the waved Endura or Delica from Spyderco either. I think they ruined the knives by putting the wave on.

Really? I'm not a wave fanatic in any way, I enjoy it and like the general idea. In the Endura's case I love how it looks, the blade has a more "normal" spearpoint shape and it opens very fast.

IMHO, waves aren't just for SD, they are just another one hand opening method. I'm gonna get a waved Endura for rescue work and a waved Delica probably for city EDC.

I wouldn't wave the M2 RSK, though. If you're not really sure about damaging the butterfly, don't do it, it sounds like the kind of little thing that you think you can overlook but bugs you each time you pick the knife up. Why not wave an S30V RSK? There's no coating to worry about, and getting another knife is the true knife knut way of solving the problem.

 

[Joe Dirt]

Franciscomv,

My point was that why ruin the pocket to open the knife "one handed" when you can take a non-waved knife and open it one handed with no problems.

To me the wave is there because there may be an event where you need to have it open as soon as it's out of your pocket. I don't see any benefit added for rescue work or anything other than SD.

Now if someone just likes the wave for it's uniqueness then that's wonderful.

 

[eojk]

In the case of my Spyderco Karambit, adding a wave made it possible to open in a reverse grip. This was not possible for me to do if I kept my index finger in the ring while drawing it. So for some designs, it is helpful for other reasons.